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130108	2003-03-22 09:16:00	hi there everyone, can some one explain to me jetstream, how it works? what you need? how much it costs? and is it worth it? im looking from a business point of veiw, instead of putting a new line in (phone $ about$ 200 i was told on existing cables) as my new business (one week to go till move) only has one line and a fax line no personal ones in house at all! (motel ) and the telecom man said how about jetstream and realld off the blah blah blah stuff and i got lost, and then said call xtra and basically thats end of discussion....... and i didnt no wot he was on about. i know jetstream is much faster but i m ok with dial up speed of 48.0 only thing is i dont want to tye up the phone line for incoming calls, and this will be another added cost that we wernt planning on, any other ideas welcome help beetle	beetle (243)
130109	2003-03-22 09:45:00	Hi, Jetstream is great, infact i'm getting it for home next week :D Anyways to answer your questions: What do you need?: If you have several computers connecting over a network then I would recommend a router, those are about $250 for a decent one. Check www.pricespy.co.nz for all of them. I wouldn't recommend a internal ADSL modem over a network as it puts your network at a security risk... not good for business! How Much will it cost: Depends on what plan your getting, theres an install of $99 and $150 for splitter install. There are several plans available for business which for more accurate prices you should try telecom. Is it worth it: Depends, as it doesn't use the phone line it means no need to get a second line installed etc etc and since it is always on you recieve emails instantly. But if the business only uses the net for the odd email then I probably wouldn't recommend it as its quite expensive, just for that. It depends really on you, for what you will be using the connection for. If you use the net heaps for the business then it would be great, if it is very little then a few minutes using the phone line won't make much difference. - David	DangerousDave (697)
130110	2003-03-22 09:46:00	Firstly, you need to be sure you are on a Telecom telephone exchange supported by Jetstream (also called ADSL) and within the range (about 4 kM) that jetstream can travel along the phone line. Simply put, Jetstream puts a totally different type of signal on your existing phone line.You cant hear it, so you can use the internet/e-mail at the same time you are connected. (I am connected all the time here.) You do need some filters to stop the normal phones/faxes/eftpos etc interfering with Jetstream. It costs me about $65 month for Xtra internet service and Telecom Jetstream service. I have the "slower version" of Jetstream, but its 4 times faster than you are presently using, plus there is no connect time. The Business versions can work out slightly cheaper as long as you do not download or upload more than 200 MB of data in a month. General business and private use here runs at about 1,000 MB but most of my work is via the internet. You need a special modem (often also called a router, where its external, and routers generally perform better than internal Jetstram modems) $200 - $400 for the router/modem. Filters are either a little in-line device that you yourself can connect (plug/socket) in line with your existing phone fax, eftpos etc. Or Telecom can install a central one. Individual ones are about $22 each. No idea what Telecom charge if they install it, but its often the best way to go. Jetstream does not tie up the line.	godfather (25)
130111	2003-03-22 09:54:00	It appears your objective is to have Internet access via the business line - silly move. Telecom charge about 5 cents per minute for outgoing calls from business lines regardless of destination. Additional charges may be incurred as well. Unless your monthly turnover can support between $80 to $900 (depending on plan chosen) plus business line rental, forget jetstream for a business line. Long term - unless you wish to make an internet connection available to guests and that wil entail costs for wiring to units - consider a residential line. Jetstream on a private line is cheaper. Check Telecom's residential (www.xtra.co.nz) and business (www.xtra.co.nz) plans Exercise prudence with location since IRD will take an even dimmer view than Telecom if the residential jackpoint is too close to business facilities.	Merlin (503)
130112	2003-03-22 09:59:00	hey thanxs, so it would be cheaper to put a extra line by the looks of it, we will only have 1-2 computers that will have access to net, emails, but the phone needs to take priority . the busines is a motel, we will live on site, but its a pain only haveing the one line so far . and we havent even moved in yet . as this is a motel i cant see the great need for a 24 access jetstream, except when i am studying . im not sure what you mean by dont use a internal modem, for security either . jetstream sounds a really good option but i do not have unlimited access to 1 money 2 time 3 energy if i had all of the above id diffinitly go for jetstream, but i dont think itll be me in charge of the checkbook somehow! lol if we dont go for jetstream or another line, i wont be allowed the amount of access i currently use, bacause it will block the line . i am also full time student so surf for work and play . . . . lol so will have to become more of a nite owl than already am . thanxs beetle	beetle (243)
130113	2003-03-22 10:08:00	yes i see it looks a bit wrong but i dont want to use the same line if possible but without any input from my partner yet on what he thinks i am looking at all avenues. i know it costs per minute, and i have told him that but i dont think he understands that one just yet. i want what is best for the business at minimal outlay if possible and a private line if possible. HHMBO doesnt like the idea of spending money at the best of times will go right off if i talk about what i want : extra phone line would make life easier for all invovled. thanxs for the input, some of it way above my head but it helps to look at all the options, especially from people in the know. beetle	beetle (243)
130114	2003-03-22 10:18:00	Perhaps a second line, and an account with and ISP that gives you 200+ hours to unlimited per month would be more suited for your needs then! You can then use that second line for faxes or whatever.. and the web!	Chilling_Silence (9)
130115	2003-03-23 04:09:00	>I wouldn't recommend a internal ADSL modem over a network as it > puts your network at a security risk... not good for > business! That is the most bill S***** I have ever seen on press f1. He is wrong about that!!!!! (I have an internal ADSL modem with a LAN (with 3-computer sharing the ADSL Internet connection with ICS & I have not had any security risks at all!!!) If you use a router then you would, need in install a firewall on each computer that connects to the router! Any way you will still need to install a firewall when you get ADSL. PS: DangerousDave: How do you know about this??????	stu140103 (137)
130116	2003-03-23 05:43:00	> > I wouldn't recommend a internal ADSL modem over a > network as it > > puts your network at a security risk... not good > for > > business! > That is the most bill S***** I have ever seen on > press f1. > He is wrong about that!!!!! Stu that's a very heavy response to someone who was giving an opinion, or a personal recommendation. Every view counts. He's not 100% right, but certainly not wrong. The exact expression is "risk" and using a router with a built-in firewall function is definitly less of a risk than using an internal modem with no hardware firewall. > > (I have an internal ADSL modem with a LAN (with > 3-computer sharing the ADSL Internet connection with > ICS & I have not had any security risks at all!!!) HOW do you know you're not at RISK?? He said "risk" not threat, or attack. Give me your IP and I could put 20 people onto your system that could compromise it. > > If you use a router then you would, need in install a > firewall on each computer that connects to the > router! Huh? Why can't the router's firewall act for every PC connected to the network!? > > Any way you will still need to install a firewall > when you get ADSL. > > PS: DangerousDave: How do you know about this??????	Greg S (201)
130117	2003-03-23 05:56:00	I am also giving an opinion. I do not want to get in to a flaming war Ok. End of story….	stu140103 (137)
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