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| Thread ID: 129802 | 2013-03-14 05:31:00 | Master splitter install nightmare | wratterus (105) | Press F1 |
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| 1332688 | 2013-03-14 21:08:00 | Yeah always keep the DSL router as close to the demarc as possible, use something like a Draytek DV120 and just run a single Cat5 from the back of it to the rest of your network. Gives better connectivity / reliability. | Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1332689 | 2013-03-14 21:12:00 | As far as I know the only issue is whether you have "maintenance" from your provider. That's the monthly charge around $2 which covers your internal wiring. From those photos I suspect that you don't have that charge on your account - and if you have been paying it then you're not getting good value for your payment. I have looked after my own phone wiring for years without any problems. However, without the cover I may be charged $100 to $200 if the wiring fails. | coldot (6847) | ||
| 1332690 | 2013-03-14 22:16:00 | Around the outside would certainly be the quickest and cheapest option. One of our experts will comment on the legalities of doing so no doubt. No problems running CAT5 cable on the outside, just make sure you get the UV protected stuff and don't use the standard cable as it will break down over time from the sun. If you think the cable may also sit in water for long periods then you may want to get the gel filled stuff to stop water ingress. |
CYaBro (73) | ||
| 1332691 | 2013-03-14 22:43:00 | Thanks for the info guys. Seems I've opened a bit of a can of worms, but I am pretty confident that this is what's causing the DSL issues now, so that's positive. Is there somewhere that describes exactly what the line maintenance charge covers? |
wratterus (105) | ||
| 1332692 | 2013-03-14 23:04:00 | Even for the guys who do that for a living that's a mess to try and sort out, if you are paying the maintenance charge do as someone suggested and see if you can get them to come sort it all out. I only see black external type cables in the demarc being used for everything and what you describe happening further on is even worse. They have tools most of us don't, like a tone source and a probe that can find that tone on the other end of the cable to save manually tracing things. The skinny cable with the red "lollipop" style connector on it is aerial cable usually used as an overhead lead-in from a pole, the brown/white yellow/black is an older style external lead-in cable usually buried which has very little twist in it and is not great for broadband, and the blue/white red/black is the newer type of cable that replaced that old cable when broadband came along and is also usually a buried lead-in. So it looks to me like as the lead-in has been replaced at various times the old lead-in has been re-used to feed phones somewhere, maybe due to the difficulty of running new cables. How frequent are the disconnects? what I would do if I was looking at it is seperate all the cables, identify which is the lead-in (blue/white red/back I'd hope), connect a temporary piece of homelan or cat5 cable to that with a jackpoint on the end, and test the modem on that with nothing else connected. the downside is your phone will be out of commission while you test but if you have the master filter already you could wire it to the other cabling while you're at it. If it's stable like that you've proved it into the bodgy looking house wiring and can take steps to fix it. You want a direct line from the lead-in to the modem using good quality twisted cable and the only other thing connected to the lead-in would be the input of the splitter with everything else feeding of the output. In theory this should stop the house wiring effecting the modem or at least improve things. |
dugimodo (138) | ||
| 1332693 | 2013-03-14 23:29:00 | And I thought my phone wiring was old and weird... | Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 1332694 | 2013-03-15 00:17:00 | How frequent are the disconnects? what I would do if I was looking at it is seperate all the cables, identify which is the lead-in (blue/white red/back I'd hope), connect a temporary piece of homelan or cat5 cable to that with a jackpoint on the end, and test the modem on that with nothing else connected. the downside is your phone will be out of commission while you test but if you have the master filter already you could wire it to the other cabling while you're at it. If it's stable like that you've proved it into the bodgy looking house wiring and can take steps to fix it. The disconnects aren't that bad, maybe 5 a week, but it's more the line speed (or lack thereof). Houses close by are getting 10 - 15mb/sec easy, we are stuck down at 8, also attenuation is a lot higher than it should be. I do have a master splitter and had thought of this. I'm a little hesitant about touching anything in that lot of wiring, but as long as I label everything I should be right. Got a heap of Gel splices so that's not a problem. And I thought my phone wiring was old and weird... "Our house wiring...making other house wiring look good since 1962" (or thereabouts) |
wratterus (105) | ||
| 1332695 | 2013-03-15 04:35:00 | There should be only 1 cable from the road(black/yellow,brown/white)and that will attatch to the solid copper cable going up the wall to the original point of entry by the roof.The other cable(blue/white,red/black) will probably have been run by sky to the jack by the tv(thats the other cable running along the eaves the other way from the solid copper one)To be honest you could just ring your isp and get a tech out,but no guarantee they will actually rerun all the wiring,depends a lot on who you get and how nice he feels.You could also just run a new cable around the outside,the chorus tech would probably have to do the same anyway,but using standard cat 5 is not the best as it will break down in the sunlight after a while.hope that helps some. | Peter Coleman (597) | ||
| 1332696 | 2013-03-16 01:01:00 | Thanks Peter. One further question - what colours match up with what when I'm testing with the master splitter. I assume it matters? I will start with the yellow/black pair from the cable that I assume is the main phone cable, and temporarily wire the splitter in there, however I'm not sure which colours should match up to which. On the demarc side of the splitter I have orange/white that needs to go into yellow/black. (For a start anyway.) On the house side of the splitter I have blue/white that will go to the phone, and green/white to the modem. I'm just going to lop one end off a couple of RJ-11 cables and temporarily wire those on to test the phone and modem - these are obviously red/green wires, which way around do these go to join to the splitter? Thanks. |
wratterus (105) | ||
| 1332697 | 2013-03-16 03:01:00 | Polarity doesn't matter with phone / broadband so just wire them any way you like. :) | CYaBro (73) | ||
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