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Thread ID: 31925 2003-04-04 09:19:00 Xtra are full of.. Greg S (201) Press F1
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133366 2003-04-04 09:19:00 I've been a loyal Xtra customer for years, but they've just pointed out new terms and conditions, and I noticed the following clause...
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Our use of your intellectual property

By placing any content, software or anything else ("Materials") on our Websites or Systems (including posting messages, uploading files, importing data or engaging in any other form of communication), you grant to Xtra a perpetual, royalty-free, non-exclusive, irrevocable, unrestricted, worldwide licence to do the following in respect of the Materials:

* use, copy, sublicence, redistribute, adapt, transmit, publish, delete, edit and/or broadcast, publicly perform or display, and

* sublicence to any third parties the unrestricted right to exercise any of the rights granted.

The above rights you grant to us includes the right to exploit all proprietary rights in any of the Materials including, but not limited to, rights under copyright, trade mark, service mark or patent laws under any jurisdiction worldwide. You expressly waive in favour of Xtra and any other party authorised by Xtra all moral rights and any similar rights in any jurisdiction which you may have or may later acquire in respect of any relevant Materials.
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Unbelievable. They've become as bad as Microsoft! Stuff them, I'm finding another provider.
Greg S (201)
133367 2003-04-04 10:20:00 You should phone a manager and get them to justify such a clause. Dolby Digital (160)
133368 2003-04-04 11:31:00 Well,
If this is for real my $70.00pm is going elsewhere
Unbeleivable!!!!!!!!!!!!
How about a response from an xtra rep (who monitor this & many other forums)
Stumped Badly (348)
133369 2003-04-04 11:46:00 bugger that!!! does that mean they own your intellectual property?? does it also mean if you download something illegal they will pay your bill if you get caught??

:(
minos#2 (318)
133370 2003-04-04 12:24:00 i wonder if they are going to back this up or they are just covering there own ass
i'm going to look into this cos i'm on xtra and if they'r doing this i'm not going to take it
sc0ut (2899)
133371 2003-04-04 12:25:00 X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( sc0ut (2899)
133372 2003-04-04 19:49:00 >They've become as bad as Microsoft!
Don't be surprised MS has a finger in that pie.
mikebartnz (21)
133373 2003-04-04 23:53:00 It's only their websites and systems..so i don't think they can catch you for dling illegal stuff to YOUR own computer..

if not... :/
Beef (1415)
133374 2003-04-04 23:59:00 Yeah.. But thats for WebSite only isnt it?

And yeah.. try www.xtramsn.co.nz.... Xtra... MSN.. Side by side.. hand in hand.. (Feels a romance novel coming on... I'll call it - Romancing the ROM! ;-)
Chilling_Silence (9)
133375 2003-04-05 00:02:00 "or engaging in any other form of communication" Stumped Badly (348)
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