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Thread ID: 31925 2003-04-04 09:19:00 Xtra are full of.. Greg S (201) Press F1
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133406 2003-04-05 23:07:00 Baldy is right in what he said earlier. A company can write an EULA or T&C that covers every base in history, but it doesn't actually mean that it will stand up in court.
The courts follow good faith commercial rules in situations such as these, and having an entity in power "xtra" writing into its contract with a smaller entity "your average user" that it can do anything with your intellectual property, is just bull and the courts would come down heavy on xtra if they even attempted. xtra puts it in there "just in case"
roofus (483)
133407 2003-04-05 23:20:00 > OffTopic
> >>have lots of coffee and listen to some of the
> problems people can come up with
> Pluto
> do you save the audio on PC?? i want to listen to
> some funny help desk calls

HaHa good one scOut. Wouldn't the audio be the intellectual property of Xtra. Copying etc would be in fact both contravene copyright and be deemed theft. Removing anything from your workplace that belongs to your employer is theft, and liable to dismissal from employment and police prosecution
Baldy (26)
133408 2003-04-07 06:29:00 so i decided to look in to the facts and have a rant at xtra . . . . . .

the terms of service have changed since the thred started .

as of today it reads:

Xtra does not claim ownership of any content or material you provide or make available through the Services ("Customer Material") . However, by placing any Customer Material on our Websites or Systems (including posting messages, uploading files, importing data or engaging in any other form of communication), you grant to Xtra a perpetual, royalty-free, non-exclusive, irrevocable, unrestricted, worldwide licence to do the following in respect of the Customer Materials:

use, copy, sublicence, redistribute, adapt, transmit, publish, delete, edit and/or broadcast, publicly perform or display, and


sublicence to any third parties the unrestricted right to exercise any of the rights granted,
in each case for the limited purposes for which you provided or made the Customer Materials available or to enable us and our suppliers to provide the Services .





I read this as getting your concent for them to do what every things use, copy, sublicence, redistribute, adapt, transmit, publish, delete, edit and/or broadcast, publicly perform or display

this would be need to get the job done . how could you email you film script with out XTRA copying and transmitting the infomation??

me thinks they are just covering themselves .
robsonde (120)
133409 2003-04-07 06:41:00 Xtra is a handicap company, hahahha They must of lost so many customers that read the thing TiMĀ©:*) (977)
133410 2003-04-07 06:54:00 ok with all this considered
THEORETIC QUESTION
if i host a site that i made on MY HOME COMPUTER using IIS&DNS but there connection
does that mean if my site hits it big that xtra own it?
and if i make money off the site does xtra take a cut?
sc0ut (2899)
133411 2003-04-07 06:54:00 They might of change they Service Terms because of these news stories:

On http://www.aardvark.co.nz (7 April 2003 Edition)
& this sorry in the NZ Herald: www.nzherald.co.nz
stu140103 (137)
133412 2003-04-07 07:18:00 Here's an idea.........

If you are with Xtra, and don't like their terms of service. Change ISP

If they peev you off so much that you need to have a rant. Change ISP
Baldy (26)
133413 2003-04-07 10:45:00 Another thought to chew over. The Govt has recently stated that the time will come when all public contact with a Govt department or ministry will be via the net (I presume this means other than a personal appearance). So will xtra be privvy to our tax transactions or health info with the Ministry of Health?

Yep, we could all change our ISP. But why should you have to go to the hassle and in some cases expense because xtra wish to emulate MS business pracitices (or come into line with them???). Or perhaps its a cynicle testing of consumer awareness.

Murray P
Murray P (44)
133414 2003-04-07 13:05:00 > Here's an idea . . . . . . . . .
>
> If you are with Xtra, and don't like their terms of
> service . Change ISP
>
> If they peev you off so much that you need to have a
> rant . Change ISP
>



Guess what?

" . . . I'm finding another provider . "
Greg S (201)
133415 2003-04-07 13:06:00 > Or perhaps its a
> cynicle testing of consumer awareness.


haha I love that perspective! :D
Greg S (201)
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