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Thread ID: 127431 2012-10-22 03:29:00 question for electricians Tony (4941) PC World Chat
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1308101 2012-10-22 08:55:00 On the other hand it is a basic requirement that an electrical appliance can be easily switched off at any time. I'm not suggesting that the freezer is likely to burst into flames, suddenly develop a short circuit that livens the metal frame or emit a deafening grinding noise because the fan blade falls off - but there are good reasons for ensuring that it can be easily switched off if a fault develops.Yes, I'd thought about that. Several of the devices in Terry Porritt's links have emergency override thingies. Tony (4941)
1308102 2012-10-22 09:00:00 While I don't have a solution, I can sympathise.

My dad as he was losing it would hover around the wall socket my PC was plugged into, desperate to turn it off. Seems the habits of switching off at the wall came back to haunt him once the senility bit him. He didn't want to go to bed without killing the power.

Now it's my mum with the same issues.

She'll turn off the TV in her room at the wall switch, which also kills her bedside light and electric blanket.
If I change the plugs around to the other outlet in her room she'll be killing the power to her heater and phone instead.

And she's too forgetful to remember any instructions to correct her. Plus the TV remote has way too many functions for her to ever get to grips with it.
Yes, its tough. Tougher for my sister who has to deal with it every day. Thing is that my Mum is actually generally OK - she still lives by herself in her own place, and while she has various people do stuff for her, she can still pretty much look after herself. I guess I'm worried that this is the start of a much faster decline. She's a pretty independent old bird, and we all feel that if she had to go into some sort of home she would fade away very quickly.
Tony (4941)
1308103 2012-10-22 09:31:00 Simple solutions are the best, just put a decent width and height of duct tape across the switch and that should stop her from turning it off. In the event of an emergency she wouldn't be heading for that switch anyway, and an able-bodied person with most of their marbles could rip the tape off in a trice, or pull the plug.

Otherwise feed it from an alternative socket via an extension cord and plug another short cord (leading nowhere) into the freezer outlet, then she could turn if off with impunity.

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
1308104 2012-10-22 09:37:00 Otherwise feed it from an alternative socket via an extension cord and plug another short cord (leading nowhere) into the freezer outlet, then she could turn if off with impunity.That's a good idea. Sneaky, but good. I guess my only concern would be her getting distressed if she "turned off" the freezer and nothing happened.

Duct tape is good also, but I suspect keeping everything as "normal" as possible is probably important.
Tony (4941)
1308105 2012-10-22 20:19:00 Invert the switch, she can leave it "off" quite safely. ;) R2x1 (4628)
1308106 2012-10-22 20:33:00 Hmmm... I'm assuming she turns the freezer back on in the morning, so how do we cope with that? Tony (4941)
1308107 2012-10-22 20:43:00 Camouflage paint? ;)
A skull & crossbones beside the off position?
R2x1 (4628)
1308108 2012-10-22 21:09:00 The standard "temporary" method used in my work for switches that are not supposed to be turned of is an "X" of red insulation tape over the switch. It doesn't actually prevent the switch from being used and is easily removed but is an obvious visual que to leave it alone. People after a while stop noticing signs in the vicintiy but the tape is always noticed. dugimodo (138)
1308109 2012-10-22 23:08:00 Hmmm... I'm assuming she turns the freezer back on in the morning, so how do we cope with that?

If she does turn it back on in the morning then there is no real problem unless the lid/door seals are munted. It won't defrost overnight with the door closed. I'd probably go for the dummy lead or duct tape though, just in case.

Cheers

BIlly 8-{)
Billy T (70)
1308110 2012-10-23 01:03:00 Yes, its tough. Tougher for my sister who has to deal with it every day. Thing is that my Mum is actually generally OK - she still lives by herself in her own place, and while she has various people do stuff for her, she can still pretty much look after herself. I guess I'm worried that this is the start of a much faster decline. She's a pretty independent old bird, and we all feel that if she had to go into some sort of home she would fade away very quickly.
I know exactly what it is like as my mother at 91 has totally lost her short term memory but otherwise alright. We end up playing a lot of hide-n-seek these days.:D
mikebartnz (21)
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