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Thread ID: 32126 2003-04-09 21:19:00 How do I find out the real sender's address? forrest44 (754) Press F1
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134694 2003-04-09 21:19:00 If someone has spoofed the sender's address of an e-mail sent to me (such as a spam), is there any way in which I can find out the real sender's e-mail address? forrest44 (754)
134695 2003-04-09 21:38:00 Have a look at the 'properties' then 'details' of the email then look at the return path of that email & that should tell you who/where it came from.
Pauline.
Pauline (641)
134696 2003-04-09 22:05:00 Well.. you can never really be sure

Sometimes you can look at the headers and see the return path is different from the senders address. It all depends how polite or stupid the $#^%$#^%$(spammer) is.
There is a chance that the spammers may have neglected to change the return path. This however is unlikely, and is more likely to be a fake address too.

Received: from p230-dialup.snap.net.nz ([xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] helo=computername)

by tyler.snap.net.nz with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1 )
id 193BNo-0006O8-00
for <me@my_domain.co.nz>; Wed, 09 Apr 2003 20:56:40 +1200
Message-ID: <big-long-number@computername>
From: "sender" <sender@somewhere>
To: "me" <me@my_domain.co.nz>
Subject: spam

If you read the edited excert from the header above, which was most definatly not spam, you will see the lines added by the ISP who first handled the said email and the lines identifying the mesage number and name of the senders computer. In this case the ISP in question is of course snap.net.nz, the computer was connected with the IP address of xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx and the email was welcome.

This ties down to meaning something. Forward the spam to abuse@the_spammers_ISP and abuse@your_ISP if you like.

Goodluck
.Clueless
Clueless (181)
134697 2003-04-09 22:49:00 Return-path or X-From will show the address that the message was sent from but if they have used a fake email address then it is of no use.

Finding the true sender is nearly impossible in this case but if you look at the latest line where it says Received:from it will give the Domain or IP address where the message was sent from.
This is about the only clue about the true sender you can get but the owner of the Domain or IP if it is something like hotmail.com will not be very interested in your complaints.
Jim B (153)
134698 2003-04-10 00:53:00 Here is a good example from some Spam I got this morning.

Sheri" <bqnvfbi@snrymnscsgdbno.com>

To :
<ruzhg@jjgbkvakka.com>

Subject :
Hello Baby

Date :
Wed, 09 Apr 2003 18:55:03 -0400

MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: from mc4-f22.law16.hotmail.com ([65.54.237.157]) by mc4-s21.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Wed, 9 Apr 2003 15:53:49 -0700
Received: from qcnrgcz ([194.126.61.17]) by mc4-f22.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Wed, 9 Apr 2003 15:52:31 -0700
X-Message-Info: fPtTjFyzVe13v+CmD4DcYyhOHzxQwGx6
X-Priority: 1
X-MSMail-Priority: High
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I)
Sensitivity: Private
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600
Return-Path: bqnvfbi@snrymnscsgdbno.com
Message-ID: <MC4-F22nxZbjjF5QxgH000aac76@mc4-f22.law16.hotmail.com>
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Apr 2003 22:52:32.0963 (UTC) FILETIME=[B4D7A930:01C2FEEA]
stu140103 (137)
134699 2003-04-10 01:39:00 >Hello Baby!!!

:p

I'd bleat like a banshee to hotmail, and maybe they'll have to employ another staff member to delete your complaints .
I'm surprised that hotmail have allowed the relaying of email from "@snrymnscsgdbno . com"

Is that all the headers? It is of course possible to forge some additional lines into the headers .

. Clueless
Clueless (181)
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