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Thread ID: 32387 2003-04-17 04:41:00 advice RE: my new web page robsonde (120) Press F1
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136429 2003-04-17 07:54:00 > > Ditch the frames?? how do i get a static section
> on
> > the top and the left with out frames?

You can use frames have a look at the above example
Or you can use tables????
stu140103 (137)
136430 2003-04-17 07:55:00 is that not just frames with out the lines???


BTW I have thought about the counter.

if i set it to only be 1 pixel in size (web bug?) and it will still count up.
then if i view the page with a sepcial version of the code it will show me the counter and thus how many hits.
robsonde (120)
136431 2003-04-17 07:56:00 > > Ditch the frames?? how do i get a static section
> on
> > the top and the left with out frames?
>
> Have a look here lvcac.orcon.net.nz
> You can download these files here
> lvcac.orcon.net.nz
>
> > and the counter? I want a way to keep track of how
> > many hits i get.
>
> Why don’t you move it to the left hand side of the
> website not in the middle????
>
> Edit: robsonde your are welcome to use those pages that I just quickly made :)
stu140103 (137)
136432 2003-04-17 07:57:00 > is that not just frames with out the lines???

yep :)
stu140103 (137)
136433 2003-04-17 08:00:00 it's fine with me just that greg_s said "Frames also have the negative effect of decreasing your site's chances of being found by any search engine crawler." robsonde (120)
136434 2003-04-17 08:01:00 > BTW I have thought about the counter.
>
> if i set it to only be 1 pixel in size (web bug?) and
> it will still count up.
> then if i view the page with a sepcial version of the
> code it will show me the counter and thus how many
> hits.
have a look here http://www.sitemeter.com/ for a counter it is a bit better then the one you have :)
stu140103 (137)
136435 2003-04-17 13:54:00 Yep Stu, but not quite eh. Tables are somewhat different.

Frames can be made without "lines", just as tables can too.
Greg S (201)
136436 2003-04-17 14:22:00 >lvcac.orcon.net.nz
on offence put i'm not going to bother to open a zip file to see HTML code

FRAMES X-(
makes it harder to select text
makes bookmarking difficult
makes scrolling a b**ch
makes printing dam anoying
makes old PC run slow
makes new window navigation anoying
makes Server Side Programming a nightmare

the sooner you get off frames the better

if you had of noticed only about 5% of major sites use frames (google is the only one i can think of now)
sc0ut (2899)
136437 2003-04-18 03:09:00 ok so i wnt to get rid of the frames, how??

I still want the layout to look the same-ish (dont need the borders)

how can i do this wiht out haveing the content of the left frame in every HTML page on the site (using lots of disk space) and makeing a change to the left frame a change to every html of the site??
robsonde (120)
136438 2003-04-18 03:29:00 Have you thought about using tables??? stu140103 (137)
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