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Thread ID: 32459 2003-04-19 05:31:00 3G on its way to NewZeland!!! nzstevem (3633) Press F1
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136915 2003-04-19 12:24:00 > Im yet to meet anyone yet who wants to do anything
> more with there phone then to make phonecalls.

meet me ;) I use mine for checking emails whenever out of town. Very convenient (not entirely necessary, just convenient)
>
> Yet we are forever forced to buy expensive cheaply
> built phones crammed full of useless gimmicks and
> services.

we are offered choices, we are adults we can decide, yes or no.

sam m 		sam m (517)
136916 2003-04-19 12:36:00 > Vodafone has not confirmed it yet but there is a very
> high possibility that they have no choice to buy into
> new 3G Network pretty much next year is when it
> should start . . video on your phone/really really fast
> mobile internet . . flag telecom's new 027 CDMA
> network . . the new W-CDMA network

So in actual fact vodafone will be copying Telecoms CDMA .

>telecom decided to be cheap and but a network that aparently
> cost 140-170 million . . instead of a new 3G network
> for around 544 million . . well they left vodafone no
> choice as to upgrade to the new 3G to compete . .

so vodafone have to change to keep up with the times

this
> means they will have to drop their old GSM/GPRS
> network . . meaning all new phones . . very good if
> you're a tecno buff but very expensive for everyone
> else . . well lets see whats going to happen . . as i
> heard telecom have only chosen the cheap CDMA as a 4G
> may be just around the corner . . offering unlimited
> possibilities . . killing Vodafone again!

Vodafone made this ( . gsmbox . com/news/mobile_news/all/43407 . gsmbox" target="_blank">uk . gsmbox . com) much 2001 . Who is killing who?

Rest of your post not worth responding to .

sam m 		sam m (517)
136917 2003-04-19 13:22:00 Fraid ive never met you,nor will i ever.

Responding in a thread doesn"t count as meeting someone.

As for being adults and we can decide?

Fine,in that case ill chose a brand new phone that can survive being dropped a few times,and that only has the same basic function as of a couple years ago,Id like to buy this at a price relevent to what its worth and i would like coverage outside the main centres.

As it stands now,theres a massive deadspot between National park and Tamranui.A good hour and a half drive with no coverage.

Nice one.

Phones are junk,and they are marketed as fashion accesories and promoted with gimmicks.

Coverage is disgusting.

Personally.id like to see both companies on there knees,Telecom more so......especially in regards to there Jetstream rip off...our internet access is the laughing stock of the world.....hell,even the laughing stock of the third world.


Even rRussia has it better. 		metla (154)
136918 2003-04-19 14:00:00 > Fraid ive never met you,nor will i ever.

umm... that was a joke (humour pill required)
>
> Responding in a thread doesn"t count as meeting
> someone.

oh shucks, and I thought that counted.

> As for being adults and we can decide?
>
> Fine,in that case ill chose a brand new phone that
> can survive being dropped a few times,and that only
> has the same basic function as of a couple years
> ago,Id like to buy this at a price relevent to what
> its worth and i would like coverage outside the main
> centres.

I would like a brand new car that costs 5c per 100km to run and if I fell asleep then it would drive me home, oh and I dont want to pay $100 for it. I have written to Santa and mine and your wish is on the way.
>
> As it stands now,theres a massive deadspot between
> National park and Tamranui.A good hour and a half
> drive with no coverage.

So donate a million bucks and someone will put one there.


> Phones are junk,and they are marketed as fashion
> accesories and promoted with gimmicks.

so are computers.....how did you write this post?
> Coverage is disgusting.
>
> Personally.id like to see both companies on there
> knees,Telecom more so......especially in regards to
> there Jetstream rip off...our internet access is the
> laughing stock of the world.....hell,even the
> laughing stock of the third world.

hahaha... just dowloaded 12MB in 8 minutes.... hahahaha

> Even rRussia has it better.

yeah but they drive Lada's. I laugh (literally) when I see those.

The original post was berating the incumbant Telecommunications Company and how by upgrading it's current network to the new CDMA network had sorely disadvantaged the opposition to follow suit with the end result being higher prices for all. I accept that is the case. A common response was that we have been inundated with new technology that is costly and to most (from I believe a purely egocentric view) believe unnecessary. I would agree with that as I do not need to have all the applications that are available on a phone, but then again I am but one person. Because I have no need to avail myself of these does not in anyway detract from those who would have a genuine need/desire/want to access the features that is available. As long as there are people who are willing to purchase products like this then there will be a market that would align itself in catering to their needs. If however you find that these are not to your liking then I respect that. However technology is a dynamic medium that will continue to develop products sometimes successfully, sometimes not. If your needs are of the minority ( and yes we are talking about the WHOLE world, not just your local community or the groups that you may associate yourself with) then unfortunately the products that you wish to obtain may no longer be cost effective to produce and maintain then the choices are simple. Live with it, or live without.

sam m 		sam m (517)
136919 2003-04-20 02:10:00 > > As for being adults and we can decide?
> >
> > Fine,in that case ill chose a brand new phone that
> > can survive being dropped a few times,and that
> only
> > has the same basic function as of a couple years
> > ago,Id like to buy this at a price relevent to
> what
> > its worth and i would like coverage outside the
> main
> > centres .
>
> I would like a brand new car that costs 5c per 100km
> to run and if I fell asleep then it would drive me
> home, oh and I dont want to pay $100 for it . I have
> written to Santa and mine and your wish is on the
> way .

Nice sarcasm,i was saying i wanted value for money and service . A product worth buying shouldn't be to much to ask . I wasn"t referring to anying unreasable or silly like you have done
> >
> > As it stands now,theres a massive deadspot between
> > National park and Tamranui . A good hour and a half
> > drive with no coverage .
>
> So donate a million bucks and someone will put one
> there .

Uh . . . . . . Thats just stupid .
>
>
> > Phones are junk,and they are marketed as fashion
> > accesories and promoted with gimmicks .
>
> so are computers . . . . . how did you write this post?


uh? . . . . . . . Purpose built computer that has every bit of juice and feature used to its fullest . Marketing on any level does nothing for me .
> >
> > Personally . id like to see both companies on there
> > knees,Telecom more so . . . . . . especially in regards
> to
> > there Jetstream rip off . . . our internet access is
> the
> > laughing stock of the world . . . . . hell,even the
> > laughing stock of the third world .
>
> hahaha . . . just dowloaded 12MB in 8 minutes . . . .
> hahahaha

Yeah . . . . and? . . . . . So you have slow net access as well . And i bet you paid the earth for it .
>
> > Even rRussia has it better .
>
> yeah but they drive Lada's . I laugh (literally) when
> I see those .
>
> The original post was berating the incumbant
> Telecommunications Company and how by upgrading it's
> current network to the new CDMA network had sorely
> disadvantaged the opposition to follow suit with the
> end result being higher prices for all . I accept that
> is the case . A common response was that we have been
> inundated with new technology that is costly and to
> most (from I believe a purely egocentric view)
> believe unnecessary . I would agree with that as I do
> not need to have all the applications that are
> available on a phone, but then again I am but one
> person . Because I have no need to avail myself of
> these does not in anyway detract from those who would
> have a genuine need/desire/want to access the
> features that is available . As long as there are
> people who are willing to purchase products like this
> then there will be a market that would align itself
> in catering to their needs . If however you find that
> these are not to your liking then I respect that .
> However technology is a dynamic medium that will
> continue to develop products sometimes successfully,
> sometimes not . If your needs are of the minority (
> and yes we are talking about the WHOLE world, not
> just your local community or the groups that you may
> associate yourself with) then unfortunately the
> products that you wish to obtain may no longer be
> cost effective to produce and maintain then the
> choices are simple . Live with it, or live without .
>
> sam m
>
>
>

Cant say i disagree with the last paragraph,i just think the teleco's should have decent coverage before brancing off into a thousand area's that wont imo sell . I may be wrong . . . . . but hell . . . . . ive been wrong before . . . .

The pricing and speed of jetstream is also something that needs to be addressed before the market will take it up in any numbers . 		metla (154)
136920 2003-04-20 03:00:00 Metla there are choices out there. Some cost money some dont. You dont need a computer but you choose to have one. You dont need a mobile phone. You dont need highspeed internet connection. If you choose to have it then pay the price, if not then live with what you have. You maybe right that highspeed it too expensive here in NZ, but we live in NZ. If it is cheaper overseas then good for them. I consider jetstream a luxury and I believe that I am getting value for money. I hate it when people always compare NZ prices to overseas saying that they are better. If it is then MOVE!!!!!! sam m (517)
136921 2003-04-20 03:11:00 A real flame war...

Anyway, what I wanted to say, was that you can check your emails out of town using webmail. Any decent ISP, business, etc, should have webmail available to their customers/employees to check emails while away from their own computer/out of town/on holiday. Cellphone services are damned expensive, hell, even 20c text messaging is a rip off. 		agent (30)
136922 2003-04-20 03:36:00 Auctally bud,Its a requirement that i do have a pc and a mobile phone.

But i can live without highspeed internet access,But that in no way justifies the price and lack of speed with so called jetstream.

And why not compare with other countries?...after all Aussie gets its feed from the very same pipeline we do.

Glad i dont have such a defeatest attitude,If it aint good enough it should be addresed,as with any service we pay for.

Simply put,there is no highspeed acccess in NZ,There is a mildly faster service at a redicules cost.Telecom could easily provide there service at a reasoable cost,there business tactics are no reason to move.Its at there end where it needs to be sorted.

Just like theres a lack of mobile phone coverage thru-out NZ.


Nice talking to ya,ill let the thread die.

move?....lmfao. 		metla (154)
136923 2003-04-20 03:38:00 > A real flame war...
>
> Anyway, what I wanted to say, was that you can check
> your emails out of town using webmail. Any decent
> ISP, business, etc, should have webmail available to
> their customers/employees to check emails while away
> from their own computer/out of town/on holiday.
> Cellphone services are damned expensive, hell, even
> 20c text messaging is a rip off.

Heh....i wouldn"t call it a flame war,no ones calling anyone names and i can see where hes coming from. 		metla (154)
136924 2003-04-20 04:04:00 Excellent thread so far.

Who ate the most easter eggs out of you guys? 		Baldy (26)
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