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137145	2003-04-22 01:23:00	> GF zkeasy said he was nearly 25% cheaper than sony, > that might be better incentive that 12.5%, even for a > business > A lot of comp sellers add gst after their price > anyway (said to be Illegal by consumer mag) so > there's nothing gained sometimes..! > > Trev A lot to be gained. When a business buys a product, it doesnt matter if they have been quoted a GST inclusive or exclusive price, as long as it is stated which it is on the Tax Invoice. The business can deduct the GST in its returns either way but only if the supplier is GST registered. As to the laptops being light or being fast, there is a cardinal rule. If you WANT a laptop, then fast (and heavy) is fine. If you NEED a laptop, then light and small is the rule everytime. When you have to carry your laptop around the country or around the world (i.e. you NEED one) then you would forsake speed for lightness everytime. I have been using laptops ince the days of a Toshiba T-1000 (8088-DOS) (1987) onwards. I have learnt.	godfather (25)
137146	2003-04-22 02:23:00	Just to throw another hat into the ring (sorry ADSL router died over Easter following power surge), our company has a business relationship with Sony which offers a 20% discount on all Sony products. At the moment investing $150,000 with one branch of our business will see	Lohsing (219)
137147	2003-04-22 02:27:00	Just to throw another hat into the ring (sorry ADSL router died over Easter following power surge), our company has a business relationship with Sony which offers a 20% discount on all Sony products. At the moment investing $150,000 with one branch of our business will see users being given a free top of the range Vaio laptop at our cost. Lo. PS. apologies for the double post...	Lohsing (219)
137148	2003-04-22 04:36:00	Thanks for many people encourage me! I also have problem as you said. I don't know the fast and heavy laptop is better or light one. Now, most popular model in JAP market is light one. I think they all have a powerful desktop at home. I also have a look of PC company's products. It is can not named as "laptop", i think they named as "moveable desktop" or sth like that. However, everybody knows the highest model have more margin, so more price difference. And postage is only a small part of price. If I try something very cheap, the postage probably too high for it. Anyway, I will try some products like that in the future. About price, because I just start. I can not get the lowest price of JAP. However, if i can sell more in NZ, i am sure I can get better price in future. Another question is about the OS system. All Jap Laptop come with JAP OS, i change it to English OS by myself. I just use the license on the laptop's bottom, it is working well for english version and no problem for active online. My question is I do that is legal or not? Thanks for many people reply my topic!	zkeasy (3278)
137149	2003-04-22 05:15:00	It might be. If it's a legal licence number, then I don't see why not. However I think there's something in Microsoft's licence agreement which says that you can't use the key from a particular language of software to another, but i'm not exactly sure.	somebody (208)
137150	2003-04-22 07:39:00	> Thanks for many people encourage me! > I also have problem as you said. I don't know the > fast and heavy laptop is better or light one. Now, > most popular model in JAP market is light one. I > think they all have a powerful desktop at home. I > also have a look of PC company's products. It is can > not named as "laptop", i think they named as > "moveable desktop" or sth like that. However, > everybody knows the highest model have more margin, > so more price difference. And postage is only a small > part of price. If I try something very cheap, the > postage probably too high for it. Anyway, I will try > some products like that in the future. > About price, because I just start. I can not get the > lowest price of JAP. However, if i can sell more in > NZ, i am sure I can get better price in future. > Another question is about the OS system. All Jap > Laptop come with JAP OS, i change it to English OS by > myself. I just use the license on the laptop's > bottom, it is working well for english version and no > problem for active online. My question is I do that > is legal or not? > Thanks for many people reply my topic! are u selling laptops in nz or japan?? why are u describing the japanese market for ur business?? i thought u were selling in nz.	rayonline (2134)
137151	2003-04-22 08:48:00	>A lot to be gained. When a business buys a product, it doesnt matter if they have been quoted a GST inclusive or exclusive price, as long as it is stated which it is on the Tax Invoice. >The business can deduct the GST in its returns either way but only if the supplier is GST registered. GF, 12.5% is just what it is, why would a business buy a comp for only a 12.5% decrease in price over a 25% drop? Am I missing something? anyway zkeasy has said he can't compete in the area we want and can only reduce price on the smaller,slimmer, slower 'new' laptops that we haven't even thought about yet! It's all for my wife, who teaches kids under the SPELD program and sometimes she has to teach at their place, which would be hard work with this whopping great desktop comp! No offense gf just looking to save a few bucks...	Trev0 (1995)
137152	2003-04-22 09:15:00	Hi,rayonline You know I sell it in NZ. Why am i always describe JAP market? Because I think Jap laptop market is more advanced than NZ laptop market. I think their today should be our's tomorrow. I just find out many models only aviable in NZ after half or one year. I want shorter that time. Yes, I know it is will be very difficult to try something new in a triditional market, so i try it from a free webhost to waiting for reply and result. Another things, why all of you said that small laptop is very slow? That laptop is design for XP and also have a another model pre-install Office XP (same hardware). It already run the lateret OS system and all popular business program, who can say it is VERY SLOW? Yes, compare with desktop or some big model, it is little bit slow. However, who will use that business model play some 3D games? I also put some MPEG4 movie into that thinest laptop, it is play very well. So, what i want say is I think that laptop is already suitable for today's requirement, and should can use for 2 years(still can suitable for business). That thinest model use Transmate CPU, 1GHz(TM5800); it is already the fastest products in Transmate, and use DDR ram. I think you can not say it is a slow and old model at all. I will take care of GST. Now I still sell it as a secand hand laptop, because I can not supply invoicement. You know, I just start from a free host website. When I find out there are space for that kind of products in the market, i will setup my business soon. Try some Jap sendhand laptop probably is a good idea, but that kind of things have no warranty at all. Maybe it have more risk than brand new one. Thanks for everyone reply!	zkeasy (3278)
137153	2003-04-22 11:06:00	yes, true jap is adv than nz. but each area is different by their own right. u are selling in nz so study the nz market. ur customers are new zealander's not japanese. eg... jap likes small cars. this method was trialled in the usa with minimal success - a financial loss in fact. usa market did not like small cars. think it was the honda company. u can never take one approach to put it in another w/o any thorough thought.... if u gonna sell laptops of any kind thats great but study it b4 hand in the nz environment. if u log onto trademe look into some nikon camera auctions. one is a parallel importing business. he/she provides a 1yr nz warranty for their goods. yes the warranty is crucial... i run a PIII 600, 320mb (max) thin ibm lappie (1.2kg, one inch thick). i have installed winxp pro on it. i personally hate it. the menu and startup are slow. i went back to win2k in 24hours. it also makes the small 12 inch screen even smalller with its bulky toolbars/borders. yes it gets the work done and dvd works fine. it is still unresponsive for myself. so, take the business for a test run and study it slowly.	rayonline (2134)
137154	2003-04-22 11:24:00	just to remind u. if u gonna sell 2nd hand thats fine. once u import goods into nz (via auckland if not christchurch). custom will seize ur goods and send u a letter to pay gst (12.5% of the declared amount after currency conversion) before letting go of the goods. this happens with laptops, a sweater incl when it is declared as a gift. i have called them and to no success i had to pay up.... that is when gst mounts to $100nz or more. less than $100 they won't bother. there may be restrictions in the amount u can import like quantitiy if u not a reg company - so better check it out.	rayonline (2134)
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