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Thread ID: 32483	2003-04-20 02:16:00	Laptop Sale	zkeasy (3278)	Press F1

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137135	2003-04-21 09:42:00	I think it's suppose to be 'innocent until proved guilty' here and za has, so far, proved that he can make a website better than some i've seen here, except for a few spelling errors which is pretty easy for all of us! and he'd like to help us to get better comps cheaper, a nobel thought. So we'd prefer the older, out of date comps, I suppose that's what advertising is all about...we're definitely behind the times here in NZ and so far as brainwashing (ads) goes, we're only human. give us a chance zaeasy were not all pessimists here, but we do like bargins!! so please give us some cheaper, out-of-date options.. PS how come my threading doesn't work so well? I have to hunt for the last reply as it doesn't always go to the bottom (being at the top would be better, but who's complaining...) catch ya Trev	Trev0 (1995)
137136	2003-04-21 11:10:00	Remember, zk, that you will have to be NZ registered for GST, as many customers in NZ will want to reclaim the GST. This means you will need to effectively start a "parallel importing" type of company. There are no real barriers as far as I am aware, but it does mean a proper business and all the compliance costs that entails.	godfather (25)
137137	2003-04-21 12:16:00	well "buyer beware" is what i say. the product is nice and at a good price, the suport is not the best and the payment system could do with some work...... if this person had a proper domain name and online store type payment would it look better??? not by much! the suport is the thing. I am all for cheeper product be only if if comes with all the same reapir options and such like. as for his spelling well just look at mine :-)	robsonde (120)
137138	2003-04-21 16:34:00	Hi everyone, I just wanted to add that it sure would be good to see some cheaper laptops for sale. Currently Im looking for a good deal with a laptop, and there isn't much for around the $2000 mark. Even so, for someone like my self a laptop between 1000-2000 would be much better... Question; why would it seem to someone like myself(not an expert with computers) that when computers get "out dated" they pretty much go off the market, in other words the price of computers never seems to change, despite having old comps and new. The newest products are expensive thats fine! The products that have just been overtaken come down Then there maybe one other level of computers here that are the cheapest but are the last of production. After this there is nothing else because they old stuff arn't made anymore. If anyone gets what I am getting at would be a relief. My problem is that the cheapest laptop I have seen is a fairly good computer, in terms of speed etc... And is priced at around $2000 All I need my laptop to do is do my work, run word power point and the internet and the portability and freedom etc... You cant really buy anything else 'first hand' for much cheaper! I Have seen $1499 but this was lacking a few things and it was a show room computer (last of its kind) and did not have manuals, warantee etc. Sorry to clog up this forum but Im frustrated that you can't buy a brand new, old model laptop for cheap (I maybe wrong, if so tell me where please so I acn buy!) Anyway good luck zkeasy with your new business. Stick with it, do heaps of research as people have suggested. If you are a genuine seller, which I am sure you are, bear in mind that there are a lot of sceptical people that have been ripped off before. I for one have, and are better off now for that and will never fall into the same trap again. So it is hard to trust people, so what Im getting at is peole will need to see some sort of garantee that they are getting the products that they pay for and get the suport they deserve.... Good LUCK!!!	joeflies256 (387)
137139	2003-04-21 21:34:00	I'm not sure if you 'have' to be GST registered to be in busniss GF, I am, but just because I can claim so much back... but I think the threshhold is around the $50,000 mark (as in you don't have to be, unless you make more than that) I'd like to see cheaper comps with lower spec's too JF256, what ahppens to the old models?? is every new comp, bought>used and discarded and is there still room for millions more new one's before comp manufactures will keep a product going for a bit longer?? is it all just the end users lot? I have heard it said that the parts in a comp are worth next to nothing and we're all being ripped off. who knows...?	Trev0 (1995)
137140	2003-04-21 21:55:00	> I'm not sure if you 'have' to be GST registered to be > in busniss GF Correct, but the market would be very small if ZK wasn't. Why would any business (the largest buyer of laptops) buy one where they cannot claim back GST? If the units were second hand, then 1/9 can be subtracted when purchased from a non registered person. If new, they represent a very expensive purchase when you cannot claim any GST back.	godfather (25)
137141	2003-04-21 22:03:00	zkeasy, what you can do is import "out of date" laptops from Japan or somewhere, which in NZ are considered brand-new top of the line. Ones with big screens, fast processors etc. which probably came out in Japan several years ago. Yes - try to hit the $1000-$2000 mark with good quality (not necesarily top-of-the-line, newest in Japan) laptops, which might open up a new market in NZ. For most people, one reason for not buying a laptop is because one of similar specs to a desktop computer costs about twice as much. If you can find cheap stock which is new, and can compete well with the laptops already marketed here (Dell, PC Company, etc. etc.), you should do quite well. Good luck with your business though.	somebody (208)
137142	2003-04-21 22:25:00	GF zkeasy said he was nearly 25% cheaper than sony, that might be better incentive that 12.5%, even for a business on the other hand they might be able to do a bulk order and negotiate a cheaper price with a reputable company, but not all businesses want heaps of comps. A lot of comp sellers add gst after their price anyway (said to be Illegal by consumer mag) so there's nothing gained sometimes..! Trev	Trev0 (1995)
137143	2003-04-21 23:53:00	trendy and thin lappies are a smaller market. the majority would prefer a faster and bigger/heavier laptop for the prices of $1800-2k around. a warranty in nz is essential. i am not sure about this pt but does the consumer's gaurantees act and fairs trading act prohibit items without a nz warranty?? maybe someone can share some light into this?? as i said the main pts are: pure speed and screen size and poss battery. just look at the prices in some of the stores. i believe u are far better off targetting the bigger market with the faster and larger lappies at a cheaper price wif warranty. how many pple buy toyota corolla's and how many buy supra's and gto's?? why target where is a lesser demand?? i don't presume u want less customers... hoe many pple buys thin sony laptops?? Rayonline	rayonline (2134)
137144	2003-04-22 01:22:00	I think the CGA(Consumers Guarantees Act) and FTA say that as long as the warranty is honoured by the distributor, it doesn't matter where the repairs are done. For example, Zkeasy says that they are willing to honour the warranties by sending the laptops to the manufacturer for repairs/replacement, then as long as it's on paper when the laptop is purchased from Zkeasy, then it's legal. IF Zkeasy said that there is no warranty, and that they take no responsibility whatsoever, then that's irrelevant, as the CGA over-rides this "contracting out".	somebody (208)
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