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1470727 2020-07-27 00:49:00 I am donating an old laptop running Windows 10 to a Women's Centre. I have deleted all my personal files, passwords, etc, partly by using CCleaner. However I want to ensure that nothing can be recovered from the files deleted. By doing a google search various options are shown, including a third party "Eraser". Is that a good one to use, or are there better alternatives please? Misty (368)
1470728 2020-07-27 01:38:00 If it's running Windows 10, you can use the Reset function to put it back to factory settings. Inside the reset function there is also an option to do a "full" wipe. It takes quite a bit of time but will overwrite everything on the disk.

Go to Start > Settings > Update and Security > Recovery > Reset This PC > Get Started.

When asked, tell Windows to "Fully Clean my Drive"
baabits (15242)
1470729 2020-07-27 01:44:00 That sounds good, baabits. In the last week I have replaced the Windows 7 that was on it, with Windows 10. Presumably this procedure will leave Windows 10 in place? Misty (368)
1470730 2020-07-27 02:46:00 Presumably this procedure will leave Windows 10 in place?

Yes. But will also remove all installed software (MS Office etc)
then
Disconnect from internet , add local user & then login afterwards & make sure none of your files are there : in C:\users\...
Just to be sure
:-)
1101 (13337)
1470731 2020-07-27 05:48:00 Mmm! Am hoping that there is an app that I could safely use to just get rid of all deleted items, without having to re-install the software? :( Misty (368)
1470732 2020-07-27 06:28:00 To ultimately clear it, you need to zero the drive with software.

But why be so paranoid? Even as a tech I couldn't be stuffed running undeletes to trawl through someones boring pictures or whatever.

And undeletes are a lot harder on the modern big drives, no guarantees of success as those who don't back up find out the hard way.
And SSDs....forget trying...
piroska (17583)
1470733 2020-07-27 06:55:00 CCleaner has a delete and wipe all clear space in tools I believe with choices over what level of security you want.

It's called Drive Wiper.
zqwerty (97)
1470734 2020-07-27 07:25:00 CCleaner has a delete and wipe all clear space in tools I believe with choices over what level of security you want.

It's called Drive Wiper. This is a good way, it will take a while depending on the size of the drive and number of passes you select. You can set it to wipe the drive of all free space upto 35 passes.
Once a file is deleted its marked as free space so it really gets overwritten.

The BUT (there's always a Butt) it is not best to try and wipe a SSD - in fact from memory it wont do it.

Edited: Thought I'd give it a go to get a time -- Drive S on this thing is a STD 500GB Drive, with 300GB free, set Ccleaner to 3 passes - The time is below ( and this PC is not exactly a low spec) :)

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It does it in Two stages, the first wipes the MTF, goes through reasonable quick, then it wipes the actual Free Space.
wainuitech (129)
1470735 2020-07-27 07:39:00 Edited to above should be MFT not MTF.

MFT = Master File Table which is a database in which stores information about every file and directory on the System.
wainuitech (129)
1470736 2020-07-27 08:21:00 That time seems reasonable and what I would have expected. Depending on the level of security required it is going to add a series of patterns of noughts (0's) and ones (1's) to all the parts of the drive deemed to be blank, this is not a forbidden operation in SSD's unlike defragging. zqwerty (97)
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