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| 139237 | 2003-04-27 01:26:00 | My system is running win98se.Sometimes when you start the computer, windows wont start and you have to turn off the isolator switch on the back of the computer box off. Then you turn the isolator switch back on, start the computer and it usually starts. When you shut the computer down in windows its shuts down, but when you try to restart it just crashes and you have to turn off the isolator switch to shut computer off, and go through the same process. When I try to reload win98se it gets about halfway through the setup process and it then crashes. Is this a hardware or software problem? |
awoof (1092) | ||
| 139238 | 2003-04-27 04:48:00 | What does the computer do when it won't start? Does it display an error message? Does the power light come one when you push the button on the front? Sounds like it's overheating - make sure the CPU fan is working or maybe the power supply could be fuct - I don't think it would be software - you should get a copy of a DOS virus checker (F Prot is one) and maybe run scandisk from a startup/boot disk - if all else fails you could also try formatting the Hard disk to be sure it's not a software problem. |
HadO (796) | ||
| 139239 | 2003-04-27 04:51:00 | The crash partway through installing Windows "usually" indicates a memory problem. The other problems "often" indicate a flakey power supply. I would try carefully unplugging and replacing the memory stick(s). Also unplug and (firmly) replug the mains power cord. It's a good idea to try the very simplest, most fundamental, sources of faults first. Connections have always been a weak part of electronic equipment. It's only since PCs came out that software has been a frequent problem area. :D |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 139240 | 2003-04-27 04:58:00 | the computer still has power,just a dark screen(black). no error message and you cant switch it off from the button on the front.have to switch off at back (isolator switch). | awoof (1092) | ||
| 139241 | 2003-04-27 05:07:00 | if it is not making any beeps or anything it's probably a fuct power supply - I would definately check RAM stick and video card are properly seated. The can't switch off the at the front is just a feature of ATX power supplies- you usually have to reset it first if the crash is bad. |
HadO (796) | ||
| 139242 | 2003-04-27 09:18:00 | > it's probably a fuct power supply HadO, your contributions to this forum are welcome and appreciated. Please don't spoil them by using offensive language. This is a family forum and a lot of people here take exception to foul language, thinly veiled or otherwise. I am sure you can substitute such words with more acceptable alternatives. :-) |
Susan B (19) | ||
| 139243 | 2003-04-27 10:18:00 | Ok i'm thinking that you will be able to turn your computer off from the front, all you have to do is hold down the off button (on the front of your computer) for about 3 seconds or so . Graham L This is the second time in recent posts i have seen you plame RAM for problems, but i'm yet to see any substantial evidence in the prognosis given by the other party . The crashing is more likely to be caused by the incorrect loading of a device driver/virtual driver, or that it is trying to find hardware that just isn't there and gets stuck in a circle . At what stage does it crash? Does the windows splash screen come up and then disappear to a black screen? is this where it crash's? Is there a cursor in the top left hand corner that continually blinks when it crash's? |
roofus (483) | ||
| 139244 | 2003-04-27 20:49:00 | YES you could say "your power supply could be [BUZZED]" > > it's probably a fuct power supply > > HadO, your contributions to this forum are welcome > and appreciated. Please don't spoil them by using > offensive language. This is a family forum and a lot > of people here take exception to foul language, > thinly veiled or otherwise. I am sure you can > substitute such words with more acceptable > alternatives. :-) |
E.ric (351) | ||
| 139245 | 2003-04-28 03:20:00 | roofus: It is a common thing for installations to fail because of flakey memory. That's because all the memory is being used, and has to work correctly, because it is being used to uncompress installation files. A bad bit can go undetected if it's used as a bit in a picture or piece of "music". If it's in a text file, you know you can't spell, anyway. If it's in a piece of programme code, it might crash (you're used to that if it's Windows), or it might just not work correctly (do you check your spreadsheet calculations?). Uncompressing an installation file set tests memory. The only better memory test is a Linux kernel compile. I agree, there are worse problems in this case. But connections are always a good starting point. It's possible for memory problems to be due a poor connection in the socket. It's possible for power supply problems to be caused by a not-properly-in power cord, or a cheap multisocket board. It is not unknown for power supply cables to be caused by bad quality moulded on plugs on power cords. (Some even catch fire). |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 139246 | 2003-04-28 04:49:00 | It crash's when you go to restart the computer(start,shutdown,restart) The desktop disappears,windows logo appears briefly, then disappears,to a black screen with no cursor,just a blank black screen.The monitor also gets switch off,just orange light showing. It will shut down alright,(in windows start,shutdown)but you have to turn the isolator switch off then back on and press the on button on front of computer for it to restart. The same applies when you hold the off button on front for 3 sec its shuts down, but you have to turn the isolator switch off then back on for it to restart. |
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