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Thread ID: 32826	2003-04-29 05:53:00	OT: Saving Power	csinclair83 (200)	Press F1

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139942	2003-05-07 11:45:00	> it should be the same. So, basically, we should change our government system to be semi-communist?	agent (30)
139943	2003-05-07 11:47:00	*Brings out Australian side* Australia beckons, with nice fine weather...	agent (30)
139944	2003-05-07 11:51:00	why should some be charge more than others using the same amount of power?? heck it takes more resoirces pumpin tthe damn thing to N Island than jus to S Island. do we charge a customer more/less depending on location? like telephone. does any one object to that is its unfair specifying a reasonable amount of kW each household should use?? i find it unfair each household need to reduce 10% if ya poor student flat or if u have 5 tv's, surrround sound and 5 PCs netowkred to play games. one can turn down a few PCs and others to forgo shower?? is that it.	nomad (3693)
139945	2003-05-07 11:57:00	My electric blanket is warming up the bed while the electric heater is on high and the computer is all systems go. Let's go NUCLEAR and have a genuine FREE Market.	twelvevolts (2623)
139946	2003-05-07 11:58:00	heck we even turn all the appliances off at the wall too. :D	nomad (3693)
139947	2003-05-07 11:58:00	Oh, well, yes. So we should shut down 80% of the cybercafes. After all, they are, on average, largely empty, have many high-spec computers with many attached devices running, and there are far too many. And there was Telecom's fiasco with "unknown services" with 30000 Aucklanders... that could be unfair billing.	agent (30)
139948	2003-05-07 12:01:00	the plan i proposed will be great for u :D	nomad (3693)
139949	2003-05-07 12:04:00	Personally, I find turning appliances off at the wall absolutely ridiculous. All it does for the majority of appliances in my houses is reset the clock, causing me to internall swear when I see an LCD flashing "12:00" at me. And for my stereo/CD player/computer/computer speakers/electric blanket/lamp... they don't use power when they're off, as far as I know, as they don't have and LCD displays etc that stay on.	agent (30)
139950	2003-05-07 15:09:00	> Comments like the hotwater > cylinder will be turned off for days at time even! And who is going to come into my home and turn off my hot-water cylinder?:| Just try and get past me . There is 1 power feed to the house, which is controlled at the junction box . It is then fed through the fuse box, and to each port on the fuse box some power can be obtained . So the only way we can turn off a hot-water cylinder is at the wall - usually a switch below the cylinder somewhere . Since the only way someone could turn off my hot water source is either breaking and entering or cutting my supply, either path is going to draw serious dissaproval . I am a low consumption user, and was annoyed when we blacked out at approximately 6pm Wed 7th . This was apparently a fault somewhere in the line which was up again after 7pm . However, I think there was some construction going on at Eastgate, to which the fault could have orriginated . And now I start to ramble: >> >(this is only an idea, and ideas are never researched) Late last month, New Zealand was abuzz with the news of reaching 4million residents - is that how many people are in NZ, or how many NZer's . Anyway, the government seem pleased (as they should) that our community is growing (more people for the benefit eh?:|) . We need to be realistic, and let more people in too . For all you out there who hate immigrants, and yet hate our economy more, need to pick which one they would rather have (or not have if you can see where I'm going) . Back when America started its influx of immigrants, they must have realised the benefits . Now they are reaping them - or more speciffically their descendants . (it pained me to use that example) . I will give you a visual of the impact: Johnny has 128MB Ram, 1GHz Athlon, 30GB HDD . Walter has 512GB Ram, 1THz Thunderbird, 100TB HDD Now who's computer is worth more? In two years, who's computer will still be running . If NZ had more residents, our economy would improve . However, this would only occur over time . We need to realise that people are a commodity, and so jobs are a worry . But with more people, more abodes, education, community, and shopping are needed, and those jobs are self replicating . But here is where it gets iffy . Since man *(you feminists should just relax - after all, you are men too) is made up of approximately 75% of water (off the top of my head, so don't quote me), we are using up all the H2O in the atmosphere . I am not sure, but I don't think there is an infinite supply of H2O . I more so believe that we are one with the nature, and the nature is one with us . We are using up the resources of the Earth and not just the oil . Some people wonder why the globe is warming . I prefer to wonder if it warms to much, what will happen . Since the population of Earth is increasing, the polar ice-caps are decreasing . Once they have gone, what then?:| Will we be able to go on living?:| Or will we ship it in from other planets:O Now I will start to draw my ranting to a close . Like I said, we have more people . We have less water . And at the moment we have a power crisis . This crisis is brought about from the stupidity of both government, and business mind alike . If the government had not privatised the power sector, it would still probably be in trouble, but they would (should) have made it work for us . Since it is privately run though, it should (could) have made money for the owners . If the owners had realised that the country was growing, we could be blissfully taking 30min showers every day . What is needed is a renewable efficient abundant source of energy . I have heard some people utter the word "nuclear" lately . That is just ridiculous . We have a few plantations of Wind Farms somewhere in the country (if anyone could help) and many Hydro-Electric Dams . Ooops . Aren't we using up a large part of that last power source . I think we need to build more hydro-turbines, not more dams . If we line up several turbines, feeding each other, could we not make a sustainable resource?:| We already have a few canal systems in place, so setup would be minimal . I have a basic concept on the fundamentals of Solar power . I wonder if there have been significant advances in its technology?:| Could this also be an option . How about the government rounding up all the unemployed, and stick them on exercycles . These exercycles could have dynamos attached to some sort of Power box (I really don't know what word to use there) . Meanwhile the country is getting some power, and the unemployed still get their benefit - but they have actually earned it, and could even get discount rates on power . What exactly are we paying so much for these days?:| Products which don't meet the requirements?:| Please, we need someone who can allow for future growth to be running the place . We have evolved over a considerable time, yet occaisionally get stuck in "olden days" . Just something to think about . Radz:p	raddersnz (684)
139951	2003-05-07 15:33:00	> why should some be charge more than others using the > same amount of power?? heck it takes more resoirces > pumpin tthe damn thing to N Island than jus to S > Island. Because we make all the power down here, we should get the best rates. We could just unplug the Strait Cable, and leave them Dorklanders in the dark - leave the lights out on that "penis in the sky". With the bulk of the population living in the North, and the bulk of the energy being produced in the South, we surely hold the advantage. > do we charge a customer more/less depending on > location? like telephone. Um, yes. They're called toll calls > does any one object to that is its unfair specifying > a reasonable amount of kW each household should use?? > i find it unfair each household need to reduce 10% > if ya poor student flat or if u have 5 tv's, > surrround sound and 5 PCs netowkred to play games. > one can turn down a few PCs and others to forgo > o shower?? is that it. I hereby object. With 4 flatmates, it is hard to reduce the power used. Last month we managed to amass 594 Units of power used. 222 of them were MeridianPlus Night units. I don't think that is heavy useage - maybe someone dissagrees, but I don't give a rats ........ Boy, this has taken me a while to write.	raddersnz (684)
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