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Thread ID: 32826 2003-04-29 05:53:00 OT: Saving Power csinclair83 (200) Press F1
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139902 2003-05-02 03:40:00 >> Them was the days, JM. It was government policy to get power to >>everyone in the country.

Well there were 3 houses in the area where I'm talking about. Well 3 houses up the one drive. It took months of organising and lots of battles. Names in the papers and the works if I remember correctly. But in the end it got hooked up like a farm does.

So they're only providing power to one point. Then we ran our own cables (well someone we knew) to the three houses and they've all got there own meters on them.

Someone just pays the bulk of the bills then at some later stage all sort it out and pay money to who they owe it to. Works quite well reallly..... until you fall out with one of the neighbours that is :D
-=JM=- (16)
139903 2003-05-02 04:44:00 > Someone just pays the bulk of the bills then at some
> later stage all sort it out and pay money to who they
> owe it to. Works quite well reallly..... until you
> fall out with one of the neighbours that is :D

:D hehe.... How many times did that happen???? :p
stu140103 (137)
139904 2003-05-02 05:32:00 > > Someone just pays the bulk of the bills then at
> some
> > later stage all sort it out and pay money to who
> they
> > owe it to. Works quite well reallly..... until you
> > fall out with one of the neighbours that is :D
>
> :D hehe.... How many times did that happen???? :p
>


Well things Like that are always going to occur when people live out in the "wop wops" for a long period of time. The powerbill always still gets sorted out though.
-=JM=- (16)
139905 2003-05-02 22:27:00 Back then even if you generated your own power down Marlborough Sounds way you still had to pay for it. mikebartnz (21)
139906 2003-05-02 22:47:00 Streetlights should be kept on for safety/security reasons. It's the lights in council buildings which I think is stupid. Many councils keep ALL the interior lights on all night, when there's nobody there.

Lights outside for safety/security shouldn't be turned off. It's the lights in unnecessary places that should be turned off.
somebody (208)
139907 2003-05-02 22:54:00 I disagree about wind farms. The wind farm just outside Palmerston North made a profit after 2 years of operating. They're in remote locations out of people's way, they DON'T generate any pollutants, and they add power to the national grid. Apparently someone's planning to build one up by Te Pohue (on SH5 between Napier and Taupo).

Hydro is good, as it also has no pollutants. Flooding a bit of land here and there is OK, as it's better than coal/gas/oil, and as long as the land was rightfully purchased.

Waves/tide - technology at the moment isn't able to make maximum use out of it (I think).
somebody (208)
139908 2003-05-02 23:03:00 I don't think "amps" is the right word.

Should be "watts"
somebody (208)
139909 2003-05-02 23:06:00 well a couple of servers would use less power than several rooms filled with computers:D

And most servers are run without monitors, so that saves more power as well.

We tend to go through lots of light bulbs - students enjoy switching lights on... and off... and on... and off... and on... and off... and on... and off.
somebody (208)
139910 2003-05-03 00:10:00 Clueless - It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt .

To quote you "Like most thing West Coastish, talk is as far as it got . " -- If you are up with West Coast politics -- and for the geographically challenged, Ngakawau is in Northern Buller and is not considered a part of the West Coast (you have to live on the Coast to understand that) -- Buller Electricity's proposed Ngakawau hydro scheme involved flooding conservation land and was rejected by the then Conservation Minister Denis Marshall in 1995 . I am sure that the proposal had nothing to do with Bullerite's constructing the thing themselves, and therefore, leaving it at the 'talking' stage .

There is a similar scheme proposed for the Grey District, the Dobson Hydro Dam, which once again involves flooding approx 250ha of an ecological area and reducing the flow of the affected river by approx two thirds -- think of the impact on the forests of the valley floor (which is mainly rimu, kahikatea and matai), recreational users and the aquatic inhabitants -- Chris Carter's decline of this scheme is for similar reasons as Denis Marshall's decline of the Ngakawau hydro project .

Despite the fact that the Dobson scheme has the potential to destroy a valuable ecological area, Chris Carter could use his powers of dispensation to give the project the green light, given enough pressure from MP's who support the Dobson scheme .
Epsilon (2806)
139911 2003-05-03 00:48:00 Tena koe Epsilon...

I tautoko your korero, and am always pleased to see fact rather than fiction presented here, or anywhere else for that matter...

Given enough pressure from MP's who support the Dobson scheme. Anything to do with casting the vote net?

We've been graced by the presence of Bill English, Gerry Brownlee and Nick Smith who inspected the proposed Dobson Hydro Dam site yesterday. There have been murmurs of legislation changes to overturn Chris Carter's party decision, but as you pointed out, Chris Carter can overturn his own decision. Rod Donald's Green party is against the project, and rightly so due to the ecological destruction, and has said that his party would support investigations into alternative energy sources. Rod was also visiting the site yesterday, but no mention if he was a part of the 'other' contingent...

Anyway, should be interesting to watch the proceedings. Trustpower has already wielded their ability to restrict our power usage by cutting hot water heating by 11 hours a day with the following fine words "we don't want to start forcing things on people". Ah, ya gotta luv 'em...

And Andy, I also enjoy a good conspiracy theory... we might just get to glow in the dark one day...

Naku iti nei na
Dyan
Dyan (2333)
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