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139952 2003-05-07 18:14:00 I don't wish to pick on anyone, and not saying I am a peeping tom, I just notice it from the bus as it goes past.

But go past the blood center between Dilworth school & Market Road on the the Great south Road at 6pm.

The place is lit up inside like a christmas tree, and they have invisable workers busy as a bee working inside in there office. In fact I have never seen any visable person working inside at that time

And there are lots more examples around. 		E.ric (351)
139953 2003-05-07 22:34:00 toll rates yes i know. at least everyone is charged the same plan ... ie whether the call is local, within island or between island.

ie.. we don't see chc call welly different than welly call chc.

ok then we rely on govt data to make sure how many approx individuals (ie IRD, winz) and ages of the people in each house. and followin a formula that be be done. ie.. a house w. 5 pple can consume more power than one of 4. 5 adults can cconsume more than 2 adult/3 v young children. if that kW is over then bye bye.. 		nomad (3693)
139954 2003-05-07 22:40:00 there goes nz's clean image :p nomad (3693)
139955 2003-05-07 22:45:00 i'm using a P200 win95! :D nomad (3693)
139956 2003-05-07 22:56:00 unemployed? i say put a cap on the dole say 8 weeks max per yr. nz is known to be the easiest goin govt i have heard. and its economy consequences. more pple working = the economy.

being a nzder i think its great aussie has said no to assit schemes for nzders. its about time some reality came out. i would change it a bit like after 5yrs u can get dole but its 8 wks max a yr. health and other assit is provided if u work and pay tax to AU. this is gettin off topic so i stop. 		nomad (3693)
139957 2003-05-07 23:12:00 Sorry but the whole argument about differing power rates is flawed for many reasons.

1/ Its one big grid

2/ Sure, as a rule we "export" power from the mainland, but there are also times (such as last winters "O no the dams are too small" fiasco) when the cook strait cable feeds us.

3/ If we were to argue a "user pays" arguement that the North Island people should pay more than the Mainland because of the Cook Strait cable, we would have to also argue that towns such as CHCH should pay more because of the HUGE expences in getting power to such a trivial population base. Certainly Invercargil and the West Coast would become no electricity zones because of the cost/population factor.

Lets just sit by our home fires and remember the days when electricity was plentiful.

BTW cooking on gas is better and cheaper than elextricity, and seeing the cost of a good gas cooking is often less than the cost of the copper between switchboard and oven, i fail to understand why more people aren't doing that anyway.

When the power goes down, i'll be having a fry up on gas, by candle light, and i'll eat by the fire.

.Clueless 		Clueless (181)
139958 2003-05-07 23:15:00 I save by attrition: don't replace lightbulbs as they blow :-)
(once I get down to two bulbs in the living room, I may have to)

Purely by accident, I bought two fittings for the halls (upstairs and down) which won't take more than 40-watt bulbs. It's surprisingly adequate.

As little heating as possible, no baths. And I still feel I'm not saving anything significant.

I've switched off all unnecessary peripherals on the home PC, but I don't switch off the machine itself; I know I should but Win XP (with all my start programs) is a pain to reboot.

And one computer company has a wunnerful idea; a ballpoint pen which glows blue at the tip - so I can write in the dark! (or I could until the ink dried up, as it does surprisingly quickly with these 'marketing' pens). 		argus (366)
139959 2003-05-08 05:54:00 > 2/ Sure, as a rule we "export" power from the mainland, but there are also
> times (such as last winters "O no the dams are too small" fiasco) when the
> cook strait cable feeds us.

But since the heavy useage of the cable is from the North, then they should have to pay for the upkeep. There is only the occaisional need for us to use the cable, and thats when they choose to drain the lakes - hope they don't try that again.
So since the cable is required for the transition of power to the North, the North should be responsible for the upkeep of it.

> HUGE expences in getting power to such a trivial population base

But in the scope of New Zealand, Christchurch does not have a trivial population. We are tripple the size of Dunedin, but Auckland can boast a 1/3 share in the population stats.
Christchurch is coming in second (www.stats.govt.nz) (when you look at the first 2 placings you will see) in the population growth race.
And since the bulk of the power travels within a close proximity of the city, why can't we just tap the line.
With the Smelter down in Bluff, Invercargil will be guaranteed power, but only the scraps from Comalco.
And who cares about the coast. Leave them in the dark. ...bunch of yeasty country folk.:p

radz:p 		raddersnz (684)
139960 2003-05-08 06:26:00 Clueless: the gas is supposed to be gone in (can't remember which) either five years, or by 2005. That's the biggest turn-off, if you ask me.

And also, coming from someone who lives in Christchurch themselves (or used to), it's weird to me that you can call Christchurch's population "trivial".

But as for Christchurch having the second largest population... sorry, but I couldn't find that. What I could see, however, was that the North Island is home to 75.9% of people in New Zealand. And I think you'll find that, no, Christchurch does not have the second largest population for a town/city... following behind Auckland City, I believe is Manukau City. Then North Shore City. Then the westies out in the Waitaks.

Even if I'm wrong, you forgot to say whether you were mentioning Auckland City as the area governed by the Auckland City Council, or Greater Auckland, ie the area governed by the Auckland Regional Council (goes all the way up past Warkworth, that does). 		agent (30)
139961 2003-05-08 06:29:00 Is it just me, or is this thread, that originally started out as good-willed, is now turning into an argument? agent (30)
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