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Thread ID: 33089	2003-05-06 21:14:00	File recovery from floppy using Systemworks	tkelly (709)	Press F1

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141968	2003-05-06 21:14:00	Trying to recover a file from a floppy disk using Systemworks. This doesn't appear to recognise any files at all on the disk, even when specifying '*.*' - does anybody know what I'm doing wrong? Or are there any other packages I can use to recover files? Thanks	tkelly (709)
141969	2003-05-06 21:42:00	Although its possible you will get the data, remember that floppy disks are not the most reliable of storage media in the first place. Im not sure how long after deleting a file you can recover it, and it depends also on whether you have formated the disk or copied other files to it since. Iain	Iain Walmsley (3372)
141970	2003-05-07 00:25:00	Just going back to first principles Tim, are you trying to recover a file you have deleted, or one that should be there but appears to have vanished. Different techniques are required for various "lost file" situations and at this point I assume you are using Norton's undelete. NSW also has a tool called Disk Editor (diskedit.exe) which can delve down into floppy disks at levels below the simple file name and that might help you if there is some corruption on the disk that is preventing your computer from seeing any files at all. Read the NSW manual carefully and practice on another floppy first with normal and deleted files present so that you know what to expect to see. Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
141971	2003-05-07 01:46:00	Hi Billy The files were deleted yesterday and haven't been overwritten ... the floppy disk was reading perfectly OK then as well. Have tried specifying A:\*.* as well as specific file names under the search function in NSW ... but if refuses to identify any recoverable files! Tim K	tkelly (709)
141972	2003-05-07 02:12:00	Systemworks would be what us oldies call NU (Norton's Utility)? Are you using the undelete option? If the files are deleted, and it's a flopy which hasn't been written to since, NU should find them. How did you delete the files? A "delete *.*" or a quick "format"? "unformat" might get back a quick format; only a miracle can get them if you did a real format.	Graham L (2)
141973	2003-05-07 03:21:00	Your descriptions sound just a little strange Tim. Are you using the Unerase Wizard or the DOS command line version unerase.exe? Perhaps if you describe what you are doing in more detail it might be easier to assist you. If you have only deleted the files there is no good reason why you shouldn't be able to get them back unless the FAT on the disk has died, but Norton should be able to fix that too. Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
141974	2003-05-07 04:42:00	Tim, my wife is always doing that to the wrong file name, and I show my leaning towards archaic but more reliable software, have an old AT 286 with Xtgold on it, which brings back deleted files with it's "OOPS" facility. If you can't retrieve your files, let me have your e-mail address and I will give you my other good "snail mail address". Les3	leshibbard (873)
141975	2003-05-07 07:24:00	Doesn't Xtree get a bit upset with long file names Les? It probably wouldn't matter on a floppy but the old soldier isn't too reliable on 32 bit applications . I found it too unreliable to continue using after I moved to W95/98 . No doubt you know about ZTree, which is a complete 32 bit rewrite, but it lacks the Oops function! Overall, for safety's sake I think files saved from 32 bit programs would be safer restored with compatible utilities . Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
141976	2003-05-08 01:56:00	Billy T yes I got caught with that one back in 1996 with Win95 and the C:\ savings. Yes we have Ztree, the final Beta 1.49 ver. is now available, which I must download. Of course we use Ztree mostly. Thanks for your comments though. Les3	leshibbard (873)
141977	2003-05-08 04:37:00	Hi Les Another good trick with XTree is to keep a stripped down version on a boot floppy. Once it is loaded you can use the Oops function on another floppy or to a limited extent on any other drive having files with 8.3 naming conventions. Out of habit I still stick to 8.3 wherever I can, so I have a range of files that are potentially recoverable by these means. You can also get an add-on for DOS to enable long file names, and I wonder how XTree would handle that if it all fitted on a boot floppy??? No news from Tim yet, but I am still wondering whether he has applied the full range of recovery features available in Norton. Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
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