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144481 2003-05-15 09:48:00 I want to buy a computer for home and business use. I want it to be as reliable and stable as possible and want to spend about $2000. I am more interested in reliability than outright speed although I dont want it tooooo slow. I have looked at a few and wonder if anyone could help me out as Im still learning as I go.
1 Case M/T 300watt with FDD Motherboard Elite P4S5A Pent4 SD/DDR, 533MHz AGP
Processor Intel Pentium 4 2.4GHz
H/D Seagate 80 Gb 7200
Ram DDR 512 Mb
Modem Dynalink 56k Internal PCI
Soundcard Onboard
Video Card Microstar 32Mb, 4xAGP
CDR Lite on 48x24x48
Network Edimax 10/100 PCI
Speakers 120 watt
Monitor 17” KTC
Keybd KB-7 Multimedia PS2
Mouse Excel PS/2 Optical
OS XP Home OEM
Warranty 1 year
$1930 incl GST
Choice no2
AMD 2000XP & AMD Fan
ASUS A7V8X; KT400; DDR400 / 333 / 266; Sound; 1x 8X AGP; 6x PCI; 3x DDR; USB 2.0
Asus 48 x 24 x 52 CDRW
1.44 Floppy Drive
300watt ATX Computer Case
80Gb Maxtor 7200rpm Hard Drive
512mb V-Data 333 DDR Ram
Muilti-Media Keyboard & Mouse
56K Modem (V92 Upgradeable)
Gigabyte Rage 128 Video Card (32mb SD Ram)
Genius Muiltimedia Speakers
Computer Cost $ 1,311.11
Upgrades Windows XP Home 177.78
Philips 17" Monitor 288.89 288.89 Sub Total 1,777.78
GST 222.22 TOTAL $2,000.00 incl GST

No3
AMD 2000XP & AMD Fan
GIGABYTE GA-7VAXP Ultra Socket A Motherboard *VIA KT400 & 8235 Chipset *333 FSB *5xPCI *1xAGP 8x *3xDDR (max.3GB - 2xslots only with DDR400) *2xSATA *4xATA133 *Promise PDC20276 ATA133 Raid *AC97 Realtek ALC650 Sound *Realtek 8100BL Lan *DualBIOS *Suspend-to-RAM *2xUSB2
Asus 48 x 24 x 52 CDRW
1.44 Floppy Drive
300watt ATX Computer Case
80Gb Maxtor 7200rpm Hard Drive
512mb V-Data 333 DDR Ram
Muilti-Media Keyboard & Mouse
56K Modem (V92 Upgradeable)
Gigabyte Rage 128 Video Card (32mb SD Ram)
Genius Muiltimedia Speakers
Computer Cost $1,550.00
Upgrades Windows XP Home 200.00
Philips 17" Monitor 325.00
Total 2,075.00 Prices include GST

Main use will be Office Programs, Accounting software, Cad Lite, CD burning, email and internet
Stevo (3797)
144482 2003-05-15 10:13:00 Personally I would go for No 3. mikebartnz (21)
144483 2003-05-15 10:40:00 Theres not all that much difference between them really. They are all more than enough for what you want.

I'm suprised the P4 based one is so cheap since the CPU costs 2.5 times more than the athlon according to pricespy.

I would go with either 2 or 3 because they have a better screen, CD-RW, and motherboard (good motherboard == stability).
bmason (508)
144484 2003-05-15 10:46:00 If I were you I would look at changing the Video cards to something with at least 64Mb RAM

Ian
IanJ (1454)
144485 2003-05-15 10:47:00 Don't touch anything with a VIA chipset if you want stability -they are junk. Get a system that supports ECC memory and has a good quality power supply. Intel chipsets are superb for stability. BIFF (1)
144486 2003-05-15 10:59:00 I have had two MB with a Via chipset and never had a problem so I don't know where you get your info from Biff. mikebartnz (21)
144487 2003-05-15 11:12:00 > I have had two MB with a Via chipset and never had a
> problem so I don't know where you get your info from
> Biff.

My friend has a PC with a Via chipset and he is extremely happy. Maybe its all the crap thaqt people load onto their computers that cause instability. Not the chip itself
Baldy (26)
144488 2003-05-15 11:56:00 > > I have had two MB with a Via chipset and never had
> a
> > problem so I don't know where you get your info
> from
> > Biff.
>
> My friend has a PC with a Via chipset and he is
> extremely happy. Maybe its all the crap thaqt people
> load onto their computers that cause instability. Not
> the chip itself
Baldy has a point. For any product mentioned in this and other forums, there is always someone who says " X is junk .."
TonyF (246)
144489 2003-05-15 12:09:00 actually i agree with BIFF on this one. INTEL are well known for stable chipsets/motherboards. via have earned themselves a reputation of buggy chipsets. however once those bugs have been ironed out they are quite good. the dark horse is SIS. cheap,fast and don't seem to be to problematic.

personally for a stable system, a intel chipset, intel cpu would be best. the cooling side alone makes it worthwhile. however it will cost more and proberly slower (no need to flame please).

however if you buy a cheap ass crap motherboard its not going to matter which way you go. there is far better and more stable motherboards than ECS.
tweak'e (174)
144490 2003-05-15 12:17:00 I have friends working for a couple of different suppliers and the return rates on boards with many different VIA chipsets is very high. Stable is all relative to what you want to do with the system. Is 1 crash a month ok? How about one a week? We have configured intel chipset based workstations at my workplace that have been running for 200+ days without bouncing. VIA can't deliver this, -they cut corners with their code and hardware. They are cheap, and you get what you pay for. I guess the average web surfer or gamer may not care about that sort of uptime, but for some tasks it is essential. The original poster commented that reliability was important to him.

What it comes down to is caveat emptor in the end I suppose.
BIFF (1)
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