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1337511	2013-04-20 00:45:00	Hi guys. We looking at replacing our, poor, worn-out Compaq Evo. Which is over 10 years old. Have update to 2 GB's ram and a sata 500 GB hard drive. Thinking about this, www.trademe.co.nz and wanted your views, on it. We have heaps of photos, thus the 500 GB hard drive and an external. We did mostly Facebook games and general browsing. I'm a little concerned about Emails as I monitor about 7 Gmail accounts and Outlook Express does the job. One of my concerns, with this, is the hight postage charge $38.00. We have a computer shop, here in Papamoa, but when I looked in there a while back his stuff was very expensive. Hight rents, in the Plaza, don't help. So, open to your suggestions? :thanksIan	ianhnz (4263)
1337512	2013-04-20 01:29:00	I'd suggest it's probably complete overkill. 16GB of RAM?! :O I'd personally start with something more like this, perhaps add a SSD if you've got money to burn: pbtech.co.nz	Chilling_Silence (9)
1337513	2013-04-20 01:54:00	I'd suggest it's probably complete overkill. 16GB of RAM?! :O I'd personally start with something more like this, perhaps add a SSD if you've got money to burn: pbtech.co.nz Yes it is cheaper, but much smaller hard drive, ram and no operating system. I do like the option of a small SSD for the operating system.	ianhnz (4263)
1337514	2013-04-20 02:19:00	Yeah it doesn't have a monitor etc either but by the time you add that it's still fine. Also, anything more than 4GB of RAM is basically gonna be wasted. Windows + browser + antivirus isn't likely to use more than 2GB. My PC is currently utilizing 2.7GB worth of RAM, but that's coz I have 4 chat programs open, DotA2 (800MB), several browser tabs and plugins.... So yeah 4GB is *HEAPS*. The SSD though, that'll make a real nice difference on the other hand, well worth investing in if you ask me! :)	Chilling_Silence (9)
1337515	2013-04-20 02:43:00	Trouble with a lot of those ones advertised esp on PBTech, and some on trademe, they use the supplied Power Supply that comes with the case, the PSU's are basic, cheap and I wouldn't really trust them under a load. That's the first thing I rip out and replace. Also many only put on a 1 year warranty when in fact they come with a longer manufactures warranty. PBTech want to charge you an extra $67.85 for something that should already exist.	wainuitech (129)
1337516	2013-04-20 03:02:00	Computer Lounge Tek Radical system with additional 1TB HDD and your choice of Windows 7 or 8 comes out at about $1500. 2 Year RTB warranty etc.	Alex B (15479)
1337517	2013-04-20 03:32:00	Trouble with a lot of those ones advertised esp on PBTech, and some on trademe, they use the supplied Power Supply that comes with the case, the PSU's are basic, cheap and I wouldn't really trust them under a load. That's the first thing I rip out and replace. Also many only put on a 1 year warranty when in fact they come with a longer manufactures warranty. PBTech want to charge you an extra $67.85 for something that should already exist. This is true, but that kind of a system won't stress the PSU in the slightest coz there's no graphics card and minimal internals. And yeah the longer warranty, you can claim on the individual parts themselves, if they come with something longer. There's also the CGA to help you out. I personally never bother with extended part warranties for anything PC-related though.	Chilling_Silence (9)
1337518	2013-04-20 03:58:00	Another option is to decide on a budget and have someone like computerlounge build one to fit the budget. Then you can decide what parts your money is best spent on. For the uses you mention a budget system should be fine. I'd suggest; A quality PSU in the 350-500W range (if you'll never add a powerful graphics card and are happy with onboard 500W is overkill and 350-400 is enough) A case of your choosing, pick this first and then pick parts to suit it. (eg itx cases are compact and tidy but have less space and require an itx motherboard, a cheap mid tower ATX case will fit anything you're likely to need). AMD or Intel both make good systems at this price point, go for a dual or quad core from either and you'll be fine - pick a MB and CPU combo to suit. (I'd suggest an i3 personally but it's just a preference). 4-8Gb of RAM, I agree with Chill that 4Gb is ample for your uses but also would make the comment that it's never cheaper or easier to add RAM than when a system is first built, 8GB should see out the life of the PC. A 128 or 256GB SSD for the OS and a 1-3 TB storage drive. You should be able to get all that and an OS and screen if you want for less than the $1200 the trademe one costs and it will feel much faster for the type of tasks you mention thanks to the SSD.	dugimodo (138)
1337519	2013-04-20 04:10:00	:thanks guys. Lots of good points there. Probably for me to group and print them for reference. Good work. Just done that, can I ask who what is computerlounge and contact details? Thanks again	ianhnz (4263)
1337520	2013-04-20 05:17:00	This is true, but that kind of a system won't stress the PSU in the slightest coz there's no graphics card and minimal internals. And yeah the longer warranty, you can claim on the individual parts themselves, if they come with something longer. There's also the CGA to help you out. I personally never bother with extended part warranties for anything PC-related though. Just referring to the PSU, those budget ones that come with the Cooler master (PBTech link) or the Foxconn Case (Trademe Link) , its not so much the load limits, its also how reliable they are. I don't trust them, I've seen to many cause stability problems after a while, seen a couple fail and take out the whole PC, 230 Volts into computer parts makes them go BANG and all the smoke that makes all computers run comes out. :crying As Mentioned I rip them out, and use them if someone wants a cheap PSU, mainly for Older computers they don't want to spend any money on. The actual builds get replaced with another PSU that comes with a manufactures 3 year warranty. Sure it adds to the overall build cost, but those cheap ones often don't have enough plugs for expansion anyway. With all the builds I been doing lately, I got at least 9 of them in my cupboard, all brand new, removed from cases.	wainuitech (129)
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