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146365	2003-05-21 21:41:00	Finally looking at improving the cooling in my system. AMD 'recommends' no more than 300gms for the HSF, and most of the good ones are more than this, is this a serious warning or just a pedantic disclaimer, anyone know? Anyone have any recommendations regarding the Volcano 9 or the Flower Cooler? I want something that will get the job done, but will do it reasonably quietly as well. Iain	Iain Walmsley (3372)
146366	2003-05-21 23:21:00	its a pedantic disclaimer. Some weaker motherboards arent going to like having a half kilo block of metal trying its very hardest to become one with gravity.. this could either warp the mobo, or worst case scenario the socket lugs will snap and the heatsink will go for a joyous bungee into the top of your video card (not good!) However this is all purely theoretical and I've never seen it happen, provided you arent throwing your case around you'll be ok. You wont get quiet with a volcano.. stick with the big guns; Zalman, Alpha and Swiftech. Another heatsink worth a look is the Thermalright AX7... Right now, if I was purchasing an HSF, I would most likely get a second hand Alpha PAL8045, if I was buying new I'd get this: www.thermalright.com As with anything, you get what you pay for though.. and some of those bigger heatsinks require the kryo mounting holes around your socket.. so check your motherboard for those Of course you could always look at watercooling ;)	whetu (237)
146367	2003-05-22 02:03:00	I have found the CAK-88T to be relatively quiet, but a well performer. globalwin.com.tw	enigma99n (2339)
146368	2003-05-22 02:07:00	"You wont get quiet with the volcano" Really? Ive used a Volcano 9 and Volcano 11 and found both to be very hard working and yet a hell of a lot quieter compared to my OEM AMD fan... You think server room's are bad, my PC alone is almost as bad as a lot of server rooms I know of!	Chilling_Silently (228)
146369	2003-05-22 02:31:00	I just gave my volcano6 to my old boy seeing as he wanted a bit more silence and the fan that came on his cpu was getting a bit rattly. So i strapped my spare fan into my system,Im telling ya all.....No one would believe this fans noise unless they heard it. Turning on the computer she emits a sound like a cessna fireing up,infact,i can hear the fan from nearly every room in my house. I had it given to me by someone who couldnt bear the noise. According to my software shes spinning at 7500rpm and keeps the old xp2200 at a cool 28c under full load and thats without any thermal paste applied. ...............seriously thinking about a volcano9 right about now...........	metla (154)
146370	2003-05-22 04:09:00	> Ive used a Volcano 9 and Volcano 11 and found both to > be very hard working and yet a hell of a lot quieter > compared to my OEM AMD fan... Well mine (volcano 11) is awful above 2000 rpm. It sounds like my old electric drill. At full speed insanity will set in shortly before your neighbours come over to kill you. I'm happy with the fan at 1600rpm, but it still makes a lot of noise for the amount of air it moves.	bmason (508)
146371	2003-05-22 04:19:00	>> You think server room's are bad, my PC alone is almost as bad as a lot of server rooms I know of! You're talking to a guy who slept in the same room as a computer cooled by a Delta Black Label and a Sunon BX for 6 months . . . Trust me, once you've gone watercooling, EVERYTHING sounds loud . . . First it starts with the GPU fan . . mine sits on my desk right now, my vid card is now cooled by a 92mm Papst at 7v ( . overclockers . co . nz/attachment . php?s=&postid=97421" target="_blank">forums . overclockers . co . nz) . . . Then other factors start bugging you . . older slower drives usually make a horrid high pitch whine, thankfully I've invested in cuda 4's which are silent, so this is not a problem for me :) Then usually its the PSU . . . mine, although quiet by default, was still irritating . So off came the fingerguards (you'll be surprised how much the fingerguards change the acoustics of a fan) and one of the fans was replaced . . . It's a lot better but its still not as silent as I'd like . . . My options now are to watercool the PSU ( . zerofanzone . co . uk/content . asp?request=liquidenermax550w&page=1" target="_blank">www . zerofanzone . co . uk) or to import some new silent Panaflo's . Leaning towards the Panaflo option . . . When the silence bug bites, it BITES HARD ;) If you want to see the degree that it goes to, take a look at zerofanzone ( . zerofanzone . co . uk) . . bladerunner is a bloody legend (he uses an NZ made waterblock on his cpu too! Made by the same guy (http://www . liquidcc . com" target="_blank">www . zerofanzone . co . uk) . . bladerunner is a bloody legend (he uses an NZ made waterblock on his cpu too! Made by the same guy (http:) who made mine) and a quick FYI the latest AMD stocks are silent, and actually perform quite well	whetu (237)
146372	2003-05-22 04:30:00	Whats a good gauge to measure the sound level of existing components? Silent is nice, but when some manufacturer tells you their fan runs at 20dBA, I have no way of knowing exactly HOW loud that is until I buy the fan... which is an expensive way to find out. Iain	Iain Walmsley (3372)
146373	2003-05-22 08:04:00	sadly this is as standardised as RMS ratings on stereos (Eg not much!)... An 80w amp @.01% THD is better than a 100w amp @ 10% THD.. the manufacturers just dont tell you the specifics of their measurements... The same holds true for dB(A) measurements of fans.. as a reference though the measurement should be considered to be taken with the fan in an anechoic environment, in free air (eg not mounted on anything, no fingerguards etc) and measured from a distance of 1m. When you put that same fan into an echoic chamber (computer case) and mounted onto a hunk of metal.. that fan's acousitic properties are going to change drastically for the worse.. So like RMS, take db(A) as indicative, but have a grain of salt handy.. The best way is to get feedback from reputable people.. and for quite a while the consensus has been that panaflo's are *the* fans to have... sadly they arent brought into NZ that often, so we have to settle for vantec stealths and Tt smarts...	whetu (237)
146374	2003-05-23 07:08:00	Just for some closure. Went for a Zalman CNPS6000-CU Flower Cooler. A little pricey at $103, however it works brilliantly. On the lowest voltage, I cant hear the 92mm fan at all, and the CPU temp tops out at 54.5 under the Sandra Burntest for the 10th iteration. Compared to 65.0 using the standard AMD cooler solution this suits me to a tee. Only problem now is that the PSU and case fan seem so much louder... :-S Interestingly enough, Zalman rates this HSF for AthlonXP(Palamino) 2600+ and over... not sure why they use a minimum of 2600+ Iain	Iain Walmsley (3372)
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