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| Thread ID: 127927 | 2012-11-22 06:58:00 | Texan schoolgirl expelled for refusing to wear RFID tag | fred_fish (15241) | PC World Chat |
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| 1313991 | 2012-11-22 06:58:00 | Wow. www.theregister.co.uk "If you can start early in life getting people accustomed to living in surveillance society then in future it'll be a lot easier to roll these things out to the larger populace." |
fred_fish (15241) | ||
| 1313992 | 2012-11-22 08:11:00 | Mmmmm Revelation 13:16-18 says that followers of the Beast "receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads," which allows them to buy and sell goods. Certain biblical sects have taken this to mean RFID chips or identity cards. Other non-believers think St John was a bit too fond of funny mushrooms and shouldn't be taken too seriously. :D |
WalOne (4202) | ||
| 1313993 | 2012-11-22 09:01:00 | Sheesh! A single school with 200+ security cameras!!?? That's more surveliance than our city plus all major public areas have all put together. Someone has a problem, and it's someone in the schools management if they think that degree of oversight is justified. Who is watching / can watch 200 cameras! What is to stop a friend carrying in two or more lanyards to spoof the system? It's OTT, but then, it is from America, the land of OTT, school guards, metal detectors and guns. |
Paul.Cov (425) | ||
| 1313994 | 2012-11-22 09:29:00 | Foul, I disagree with the level of tracking. Not on a security note but on a "why the hell do you need to know that much about me" note. Also, the potential for misuse by employees or if the system was vulnerable is high. | The Error Guy (14052) | ||
| 1313995 | 2012-11-22 10:05:00 | Foul, I disagree with the level of tracking. Not on a security note but on a "why the hell do you need to know that much about me" note. Also, the potential for misuse by employees or if the system was vulnerable is high. This ^^ |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 1313996 | 2012-11-22 10:34:00 | Also from here www.gather.com Heather Fazio of Texans for Accountable Government told WND that she filed a Freedom of Information Act request for $30 and received the names and addresses of every student in the school district. “Using this information along with an RFID reader means a predator could use this information to determine if the student is at home and then track them wherever they go. These chips are always broadcasting so anyone with a reader can track them anywhere,” she said. |
fred_fish (15241) | ||
| 1313997 | 2012-11-22 10:45:00 | As much as I agree with the fact it could potentially be used to stalk someone, I must still point out that most RFID tags do not constantly broadcast anything, most are passive devices with no power source of their own. When a reader comes near they pick up an RF signal from it which induces a current in a coil and lets them power up to broadcast their data, that the reader then picks up and displays to you. Even the ones with their own batteries do not typically broadcast continuously, and their range is fairly limited. But I still don't like it, not when you could get everyone's info and status for $30. |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 1313998 | 2012-11-22 11:53:00 | Agreed, however the 'take home message for joe public' that they cannot be easily turned off remains true. Even if passively powered by the reader, they are effectively always 'on'. edit: and "hell yes!" - the availability of the gathered data should be of great concern. |
fred_fish (15241) | ||
| 1313999 | 2012-11-22 19:39:00 | Any bets on how long before the schools here start this sort of thing user the guise of "Children's safety"?? | paulw (1826) | ||
| 1314000 | 2012-11-22 19:44:00 | No, you couldn't track with RFID in the same way as GPS but since it is of course passive, with the right knowlege you can make your own scanner to read the RFID tags and thus know if a person is in a certain area. Say for instance you put one in a mall, or if you are a stalker type installed on near the victims home. You'd be able to tell when the victim got home etc. Now I know these are very extreme cases of misuse of the RFID system however if enough people adopt it there will become enough demand to do things like this. My personal standing in this scenario is that RFID itself does not need to be used in conjunction with the amount of systems already in place. It would be much better if they just stuck to optical readers or adopted something a little more tailored such as NFC on phones or snapper like cards for those without phones. |
The Error Guy (14052) | ||
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