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Thread ID: 127951	2012-11-23 19:40:00	Why is electricity sooo expensive?	ruup (1827)	PC World Chat

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1314479	2012-11-28 20:03:00	Try these links: www.altestore.com www.altestore.com Many thanks for that, just what I'm looking for. :thumbs: Are they available in NZ or do I need to import one? :thanks	B.M. (505)
1314480	2012-11-28 20:32:00	Could not see your presentation.... See here (sustainablecities.org.nz)	notechyet (4479)
1314481	2012-11-28 21:44:00	Are they available in NZ or do I need to import one? There used to be a company in the South Island called Thermodynamics something or rather - who sold me my solar hot water DC pump But I can't track them down anymore. Looks like it's an import.	ellpow (16400)
1314482	2012-11-29 00:14:00	There used to be a company in the South Island called Thermodynamics something or rather - who sold me my solar hot water DC pump But I can't track them down anymore. Looks like it's an import. Bugger, never mind I will if I have too. :thumbs:	B.M. (505)
1314483	2012-11-30 05:50:00	However, years ago I built my own and it worked brilliant. The only problem was it was in breach of the existing Plumbing Regulations :) (because it had a couple of one way valves) and the Electrical Regulations :) because it was pump circulated system via a couple of temperature sensor switches on the roofs solar panel, etc. From another wrinkly member <grin>, BUT, do you know of a website that may provide plans for a system such as yours. We are semi remote and are very very interested in reducing our hot water costs, which at present are 100% grid power. We are small time into solar power and are in the process of providing solar power for our house lighting - one small step at a time. Though solar water heating would be the first preference. Sorry to others for stealing the thread, but its very important to us !	curly (6655)
1314484	2012-11-30 06:11:00	However, years ago I built my own and it worked brilliant. The only problem was it was in breach of the existing Plumbing Regulations :) (because it had a couple of one way valves) and the Electrical Regulations :) because it was pump circulated system via a couple of temperature sensor switches on the roofs solar panel, etc. From another wrinkly member <grin>, BUT, do you know of a website that may provide plans for a system such as yours. We are semi remote and are very very interested in reducing our hot water costs, which at present are 100% grid power. We are small time into solar power and are in the process of providing solar power for our house lighting - one small step at a time. Though solar water heating would be the first preference. Sorry to others for stealing the thread, but its very important to us ! Just one small step for mankind.	Cicero (40)
1314485	2012-11-30 08:34:00	However, years ago I built my own and it worked brilliant. The only problem was it was in breach of the existing Plumbing Regulations :) (because it had a couple of one way valves) and the Electrical Regulations :) because it was pump circulated system via a couple of temperature sensor switches on the roofs solar panel, etc. From another wrinkly member <grin>, BUT, do you know of a website that may provide plans for a system such as yours. We are semi remote and are very very interested in reducing our hot water costs, which at present are 100% grid power. We are small time into solar power and are in the process of providing solar power for our house lighting - one small step at a time. Though solar water heating would be the first preference. Sorry to others for stealing the thread, but its very important to us ! Only too happy to help if I can curly. I don’t know of any websites, and I don’t have any technical drawings, because they’re all in the head. :) However, it’s not hard unless you get into running the solar heating and fire wetback in a parallel situation. Even then, the only real problem is the wetback acting a radiator and cooling the water when the fire isn’t going. However, the first thing is to forget convectional current systems. (Ohhh I hear the outcry.) For Solar Heating to work efficiently the water must be pumped for starters. (I see them lining up to have a go at me.) Now, this is where we have a bit of a stutter. Ellpow has directed us to what we need, but I can’t find a local supplier. My original pump came courtesy of the Waikato Hospital, the Hamilton Telephone Exchange or a firm called Cook Heating. It was a long time ago and I doubt I could find one these days. :D Anyway, until we locate a suitable pump there isn’t much point in explaining the rest. I look forward to being attacked from all quarters by those who believe you don’t need to pump the water. :D	B.M. (505)
1314486	2012-12-02 02:00:00	Just checked a few prices here http://www.expatistan.com/ And it seems that New Zealand's power is not really expensive. It is a lot cheaper in Seoul and a bit cheaper in Toronto. But dearer in Melboure and Sydney and Berlin.	Digby (677)
1314487	2012-12-02 02:26:00	Just checked a few prices here http://www . expatistan . com/ And it seems that New Zealand's power is not really expensive . It is a lot cheaper in Seoul and a bit cheaper in Toronto . But dearer in Melboure and Sydney and Berlin . I did a quick check Comparing Tauranga and Brisbane overall and they reckoned it was 32% dearer to live in Brisbane . I can assure you it wasn’t in August when I was last there . You’re looking at Aus petrol say A$1:40 l against NZ$2:10 l GST Aus 10% with 0 on unprocessed food against 15% Electricity about 2c kWh cheaper in Aus and includes GST with no sneaky fees . Food and Clothing, much cheaper in Aus Wife tells me . House rental, much the same if you’re renting . So how they are doing their creative accounting eludes me . Anyway, I’m heading back in a couple of weeks so I’ll see how things are then . :)	B.M. (505)
1314488	2012-12-02 02:47:00	"House rental, much the same if you’re renting." What is house rental like if you are squatting ? And there is no point in mentioning GST differences as every country has different rates of GST/VAT. When we introduced GST sales tax was removed and income tax lowered. That site is run by an English bank, so I don't think they have any interest in making NZ look dearer than Brisbane. But as I said the data is user entered, so it is not 100% accurate. You can register and enter any prices that you have. And of course the site converts all figures to a standard dollar price which does not allow for higher wages in some countries.	Digby (677)
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