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| Thread ID: 127951 | 2012-11-23 19:40:00 | Why is electricity sooo expensive? | ruup (1827) | PC World Chat |
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| 1314459 | 2012-11-26 20:01:00 | I have read that shipping companies prefer to sail to Australian ports where they can off load say 100 containers, rather than NZ with only 20. Just for the record Digby, our home port of Tauranga is considered the most efficient in Australasia. Last year the Port of Brisbane cracked 1M containers for the first time. Tauranga shifted 914,690. Now compare the population and area serviced by Brisbane to that of Tauranga. Therefore, I conclude that Shipping Company’s are hardly avoiding New Zealand. ;) |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1314460 | 2012-11-27 07:27:00 | "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed, lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work instead of living on public assistance." - Cicero , 55 BC So, evidently we've learned nothing in the past 2,067 years. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 1314461 | 2012-11-27 10:07:00 | Just for the record Digby, our home port of Tauranga is considered the most efficient in Australasia. Last year the Port of Brisbane cracked 1M containers for the first time. Tauranga shifted 914,690. Therefore, I conclude that Shipping Company’s are hardly avoiding New Zealand. ;) Yes well said, the POT leads NZs ports for efficiency. The thing is, Singapore has cleverly structured itself as the SE Asia shipping hub - and good on them - with the major Australian ports just about close enough to be economic, and on the other side all the Asian ports up to Japan, India just a short sail away, then on to Europe or across the Pacific to the USA. New Zealand is a side trip if they can be bothered, and to be absolutely honest...these shipping companies don't care. Have a look at the globe and NZ is nearly as hard to get to as the Falklands so its no surprise that various shippers have cancelled NZ over the last decade. Still, youda thunk they coulda brought in a few ergs on their way past eh. :D |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 1314462 | 2012-11-27 19:16:00 | If that is the case it is not very much at 0.3750 cents a day. :) Trev: looks like you are on low user rates - most users pay much more than a fixed price of 0.3750 cents per day - more like between $1 and $3 a day "daily charge". The fixed component of most people's bill doesn't come close to paying for the actual lines costs (apart from people in the King Country - not sure anywhere else), so each unit of electricity you buy actually carries around 10c/kWh or more of line charges. That number is going up significantly year on year as Transpower starts to recover the capital cost of its $4b plus investment programme currently underway. The Lines Company (out King Country way) bills customers directly for the lines component of a power bill - so they get two separate bills. Yes, we need to come up with some decent facts and figures on this subject. So far we (PCW F1) have come up with no actual plan on how to lower electricity prices. CEOs, Directors and shareholders are all entitled to a fair remuneraton. To lower electricity prices: King Country people: have a look at the size of hot water cylinder element - change it down to 2kW if it is at 3kW, and put a timer on it so that it doesn't come on at dinner time (this is a way to reduce a home's "coincident peak" which is what the line charges are calculated on). Alternatively go to gas bottles and use a continuous flow gas water heater - the cheapest non-electricity option. Otherwise try a heat pump water heater that can handle the winter temperatures that the KC gets - these units can lop the peak from 2kW or 3kW down to 600W or 1kW max - which makes a significant difference on the peak demand on a house. And worth investigating if this is what sets the power price. Rest of NZ: check what is eating power and make a conscious decision on whether that is what you want to spend your money on. Water heating, space heating and ... lights... are likely to be the main culprits. |
ellpow (16400) | ||
| 1314463 | 2012-11-27 19:48:00 | I lived in Nelson for the last 10 years and can't understand why all new houses don't have solar water heating as a requirement by law, there is by far enough sunshine to make it a viable alternative to give each house free hot water | gary67 (56) | ||
| 1314464 | 2012-11-27 20:44:00 | "Why is electricity sooo expensive? " Ergonomics. ;) |
R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 1314465 | 2012-11-27 20:52:00 | I lived in Nelson for the last 10 years and can't understand why all new houses don't have solar water heating as a requirement by law, there is by far enough sunshine to make it a viable alternative to give each house free hot water Because the cost of SHW is simply too high for the energy you save. Quite a few of them don't work and the householder has not a clue. |
ellpow (16400) | ||
| 1314466 | 2012-11-27 23:51:00 | Because the cost of SHW is simply too high for the energy you save.... We, my/our household. has used SHW for the last twenty years in combination with WB(wetback, firewood driven). The times we may use EHW is Oct/Nov and March/April during multiple overcast days as the air temp is to high to start the firebox. You may want to calculate for me and show that it hasn't been worth it?:) |
notechyet (4479) | ||
| 1314467 | 2012-11-28 02:20:00 | Installing solar etc is probably a good idea, but its not really very cost effective otherwise more people would be doing it. And the question of the OP is "Why is electricity so expensive" Not - how can I reduce my electricity bill. |
Digby (677) | ||
| 1314468 | 2012-11-28 02:32:00 | ..And the question of the OP is "Why is electricity so expensive" You're right! |
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