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1338979	2013-04-30 21:46:00	In Vista\7, they removed GIF animation from Windows picture viewer I'll admit that was annoying, but I open GIFs in Firefox to get around that. and changed the keyboard shortcuts from sensible things like Ctrl+A to idiotic finger-breaking things like Ctrl+Alt+0 As wainuitech said, eh? :confused: Then in Windows 8, the Metro picture viewer won't even let you scroll through multiple pictures in a folder. It can, but only if the folder is included in a library - it's a Metro restriction. IE's toolbars have become less and less customisable for every version... Why would you still use IE :p	pcuser42 (130)
1338980	2013-04-30 21:47:00	It's extremely hard to change one's perception. If somebody likes product A, product A is the best in the world, even if something is not as good as product B, he (she) will still put it in such a way that it's better. I can really see this behaviour in this W8 vs W7 debate - it's a realy good example of PERCEPTION. My conclusion is: Just use (or buy) whatever you like most; be happy with what you have and most importantly, respect other's views. It's really pointless to argue how good/bad W8 or W7 is. If a product is really good, people will just buy and use it, otherwise, peole will just dump it- just like Win ME and maybe Vista :)	bk T (215)
1338981	2013-04-30 22:01:00	While those comments BK T are all true and good points, if people but a computer / Laptop from places like the toaster shops, then they're loaded with what ever is the flavour of the year at the time. The only way to change that is to either have someone custom build or go to a real computer shop, not a shop that sells Lounge suits or kitchen ware next to the computer department :D	wainuitech (129)
1338982	2013-04-30 22:18:00	Eh ??????????? What keyboard are you using ?? Ctrl +A = Select all, and still is :confused: In Word, Ctrl+Alt+0 switches your view from "Normal" view to "Outline" view. I was talking about the Windows picture viewer. In the XP version the shortcuts make sense. In the Vista and later versions they are insane. And it seems they changed them for no other reason than "because they could" - which is why it really makes no sense.	Agent_24 (57)
1338983	2013-04-30 22:55:00	I was talking about the Windows picture viewer. In the XP version the shortcuts make sense. In the Vista and later versions they are insane. And it seems they changed them for no other reason than "because they could" - which is why it really makes no sense. Can you please explain that a bit better -- I just opened up a XP machine, viewed some pictures in Windows Picture Viewer,it still only shows 1 picture that's selected, and you can move back and forth to the next Picture. In W7 & W8 its called Photo Viewer and does the exact same thing - W8 has the Start App as the default viewer, but that's easy to change to another viewer. Ctrl +A in XP picture viewer only makes the picture zoom in /enlarge. You still cant select all the pictures in the folder from the viewer ???	wainuitech (129)
1338984	2013-04-30 23:08:00	Ctrl +A in XP picture viewer only makes the picture zoom in /enlarge. Yes. That sets it to 100% image zoom, and Ctrl+B sets to 'best fit' - the whole image shrunk to fit in the window. The shortcuts are easy to use with 2 fingers and easy to remember. Not so in the later versions. A step backwards I think. The pictures folder has nothing to do with it. I was just saying that in Metro you can't scroll through pictures in a folder, unless as pcuser42 pointed out, you import them to a library first. So, if you genuinely like Metro, and you wanted to quickly look through some pictures that were on a CD or something, you can't, unless you copied them to your pictures library first or something? That's also pretty silly.	Agent_24 (57)
1338985	2013-04-30 23:49:00	For Zooming in W7 or W8 Photo Viewer I simply use the + and - Keys, zooms to what ever you select. As for the Metro App Viewer in W8 -- Call me old fashioned :p , but I have all my pictures in separate folders in the "My Pictures" folder anyway, and they all work fine, open in full screen with the app (scroll left to right by using the arrow keys).	wainuitech (129)
1338986	2013-04-30 23:54:00	And who still uses CDs :p	pcuser42 (130)
1338987	2013-05-01 00:05:00	....... I was just saying that in Metro you can't scroll through pictures in a folder, unless as pcuser42 pointed out, you import them to a library first. (from memory).. But you still can in Win8 Go to the desktop & open the folder viewer (explorer) , browse whatever folders & pictures you want Can't that folder veiwer/explorer be added as a Metro Tile ?	1101 (13337)
1338988	2013-05-01 21:43:00	(from memory).. But you still can in Win8 Go to the desktop & open the folder viewer (explorer) , browse whatever folders & pictures you want Can't that folder veiwer/explorer be added as a Metro Tile ? I think it also depends on which picture viewer is set as the default - the metro one or windows desktop one. Pretty sure the "proper" desktop one will view pictures in any folder as it did in Win7 and previous versions. The Metro one is locked down to your libraries only. I hope most of these stupid annoyances are sorted out in Windows 8.1	autechre (266)
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