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| 150043 | 2003-06-05 11:12:00 | Are there any friendly hackers watching who know how I can remove my name from a malicious spammers computer? With all the viruses etc about it must be possible deliver a code that can do this. Heres a great money making opportunity for you programmers as I'm sure people would be happy to pay to protect their privacy and remove their names from mailing lists. Just remember it was my idea when you start collecting the royalties and pay me a small commission. | NIGGEL (2358) | ||
| 150044 | 2003-06-05 12:04:00 | Hi I don't think making viruses to destroy other viruses and/or data should be used in this manner, no matter what good intentions will be used. This idea is not a good idea, although some companies have already implemented this. Trend Micro the AV company. + Music companies over the Kazaa network. An example of this idea GONE MAD. So, once again, let us NOT endorse this method to get what you want. Rev Species 116 |
revspecies116 (3916) | ||
| 150045 | 2003-06-05 12:05:00 | This is not the forum talk about this! There is other forums, chat rooms etc... On this subject. This is a Computer Helpdesk |
stu140103 (137) | ||
| 150046 | 2003-06-05 12:37:00 | My question was about a problem that affects many computer users including the contributers to PC World and this is probably the best forum for it that I know of. I'm not suggesting destroying offender's computers, just removing information about others that they had no right to possess in the first place. If somebody can buy or obtain our details without our consent then surely we should be allowed to remove them and if the offenders do not give us this opportunity we must take action to protect ourselves. | NIGGEL (2358) | ||
| 150047 | 2003-06-05 12:46:00 | Maybe I shouldn't have used the "virus" word. What I mean is something that could be returned to a spammer to delete my address from his mailing list. Sure I can block one offending address in my firewall but these sickos use many different identities and pass your address on to others as well. | NIGGEL (2358) | ||
| 150048 | 2003-06-05 12:54:00 | Which is why you would have to 'deploy' this 'app' to them as well.. and the next person who its passed on to... and the next... To be honest, once they've got it, your best bet is MailWasher or something similar :-) |
Chilling_Silently (228) | ||
| 150049 | 2003-06-05 20:06:00 | Rather than trying to set up rules etc in a firewall or mail client, use something like Mailwasher, it is free and you have the option of deleting from the server or bouncing back to the sender. Of course if the senders name has been forged and many are, then you are either bouncing back to a unsuspecting party whose email address has been used or to no where. Your name is just one of a few million/billion/trillion out there all crammed on to CD and sold between spammers and wanabe spammers all over the place. If you have the time and will, you can trace the isp numbers in each message and complain to the various isp's who have either been relayed via or have had the spam sent from them. I got that idea from someone else here on F!, JimB it might have been, I have had a degree of luck in getting some of the relays secured, two messages recently from China.net of two clients they have shut down, several messages from Europe of accounts being closed, even had some luck with xtra and clear. Many isp's do not reply to advise what they have done other than a automated email advising they have got your email. You need to look at the isp carefully though as some spammers have there own isp. |
Gordon. (2217) | ||
| 150050 | 2003-06-05 20:14:00 | Why not? Spam is very much on topic IMO. It is a serious problem for computer users, and I find it worrying that whenever the subject is raised in this or virtually any forum, we get someone trying to shut discussion down. I rather wonder what corner these people are coming from. Mailwasher and products like it are stop-gaps; they are not a solution to the problem. The solution to the problem IMO is workable and internationally agreed legislation. We've done it extensively for porn; we've done it for electronic transactions. Why not spam? If the internet abolishes spam, we'll rediscover a lot of bandwidth we'd forgotten we had. There are real technical and practical benefits for the kind of users that frequent PF1. Personally, i'm impressed with the other local product Death2Spam; but a little worried over the commercial so-called "opt-in" interests which already seem to be trying to pervert spam-filters to their own ends - using the filter to let them produce marketing messages that won't be trapped, though they are, to all intents and purposes, spam. It is a technical problem and I wish there were a real (long-term) technical solution. An automatic address removal mechanism would be very nice and peaceful, but I doubt its practicality. As with many other areas of blatant disregard for society's acceptable standards where governments decline to act, and users try to shut down debate, there WILL be nasty "vigilante" action. None of us approve of it, but it WILL happen unless a long-term answer can be found. Argus |
argus (366) | ||
| 150051 | 2003-06-06 02:10:00 | SPAM is definitely ON topic Seems to me that whenever we accept junk mail and/or circulars through our physical letterboxes we are reinforcing the notion that SPAM is okay I very rarely have received spam except when I overlooked an "opt out" box when voting in last year's webby awards = kill off the address So let's stop ALL spam, starting at the physical letterbox - why should we have to disfigure our letterboxes with signage stating our desire to "opt OUT". And with physical spam I do exactly what was suggested here and have enlisted the help of the Privacy Commissioner to get the Direct Marketing Association and all it's members including the incestuous industry of market surveyors to keep my details OFF their lists. Current target is that group of arrogants called Real Estate Agents who as a group personally choose to ignore my opt-out signs at their peril. Such UNprofessional behaviour is contrary to their very own regulations Yes - a virus that specifically targets the destruction of UNauthorised recordings of my details has my vote !!!!! |
Woof (2402) | ||
| 150052 | 2003-06-06 02:32:00 | Hey Rev, Making viruses to destroy other viruses, well computerwise and medicalwise, this method should be looked at, especially if it's going to cure the problems. Viruses to counter other viruses (computers) has already been implemented as you said, the problem I see is that still it's a virus and it's not hard for someone to create another virus that can change a good virus to a bad virus. They really have to find another method for doing this because it is a security risk. Slightly OT (can turn this into computer programming) - Genetically Modified things, how I look at it, if you modify a patch of grass and then that grass spreads it's seed/spores/whatever to other patches and then 3 generations all the grass die for some unknown reason from this modification, we just turned what was green into a desert. Unless it's in a controlled environment, we don't know the outcome of it. |
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