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Thread ID: 34431	2003-06-13 01:12:00	M$ extends Win98's life!	Kiwitas (514)	Press F1

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152109	2003-06-20 05:05:00	I stand corrected on the browser os. My car is a 1951 Ford Prefect and I can still get parts for it from Ford. My W98se was purchased in March 2000 and it soon wont be supportable. I just hate Microsoft with a vengeance but I have no real choice. I am not interested in the stupid penguin stuff or Netscape. To see a good comment on netscape go to www.ernieshouseofwhoopass.com look at home page. tedheath	tedheath (537)
152110	2003-06-20 05:19:00	I still use Win 95 at home. So what if Microsoft don't support it any more. It runs fine for what I want it to do. Microsoft want those people who fear that with no support, their pc will stop running, so they will run out and buy XP (and maybe a faster pc to run it).	Dolby Digital (160)
152111	2003-06-20 05:37:00	> actually the last browser stats i saw (couple of > weeks ago) had XP as the most commanly used OS by a > big margain. i'll have to go find it again...... Have a look at www.google.co.nz This has got to be the most accurate representation of OS share on the internet. If you have a look, you'll find that 33% of people using google are still using Win98 while 32% are using XP. That's a lot of people that will have to upgrade (Which most likely means new hardware too - more money for both Microsoft and Intel/AMD.) If you don't like Microsoft doing, then the solution is simple - don't use their products. I switch a couple of years ago now (To Free/Open Source Software) and I haven't looked back.	segfault (655)
152112	2003-06-20 05:47:00	Who really minds if they support it or not, isnt that why we have pressf1?	Chilling_Silently (228)
152113	2003-06-20 05:49:00	> If you don't like Microsoft doing, then the solution > is simple - don't use their products. I switch a > couple of years ago now (To Free/Open Source > Software) and I haven't looked back. Well said! Its NOT HARD either to get away from its grasps... Its really, just a matter of choice, and not wanting to!	Chilling_Silently (228)
152114	2003-06-20 06:24:00	You will find that the rights to manufacture proprietory products are either bought or are "open source" (or filtched). I doubt MS are going to release the code for 98 some time soon. Cheers Murray P	Muzzer (238)
152115	2003-06-20 09:08:00	i noticed the Zeitgeist don't say how many winME pc there are. lies, damn lies and stats! every site with browser/OS stats is totally different. dolby.......thats proberly the biggest reason people are trying to get win98 to run on old 486/p1's with next to no ram that run so slow. its been driving me nuts!	tweak'e (174)
152116	2003-06-20 09:28:00	Can I interject a note of reality here. Microsoft are in business. A very successful business. Bill Gates technical ability and entreprenurial skills enabled him to attract other likeminded young people and build up a software company from nothing. The result is us being able to sit in our homes and excoriate him. Seems a little rich to me to criticise the man and the company which made personal computing possible for ordinary folk. Certainly Apple deserves plaudits as do others. Microsoft do not have to provide free updates, patches etc. Catch Ford or Toyota doing that - I don't think so! So Linux is available for anyone to try but at the moment I imagine most people are a little afraid of the unknown. The fact that it exists at all is incredible and a rather ironic compliment to Bill Gates that somebody felt they had to challenge Windows. I am not worried about W98 although I use it. In fact I was suprised when I first learned about Microsoft support, expecting to have to pay. So cheer up people- Microsoft is simply phasing out old technology as you would do yourself. The fact that it generates more money isn't a crime. Remember you don't have to use Windows beyondW98.	Winston001 (3612)
152117	2003-06-20 10:18:00	Ford & Toyota, will and do, provide free support/upgrades when the vehicle they have sold does not perform as it should, either by created expectation or a fault . Its generally called a product recall . And if they don't perform, in the US at least, they get the pants sued off them . Haven't there been various court actions not too long ago? If there is a fault in a product then the business that has benifited by selling that product in the first place should repair it at no cost to the consumer . If on the other hand the end user has broken it or has expectations beyond its specification then they should pay . Of couse MS is in business . The flip side of making a product, and hopefully a profit, especially a very sucsessfull one in terms of sales, means that you will be critcally scutinised . And that should the conditions they have to operate under IMHO . MS have not got where they are by being nice . All their actions have a well thought out, if occasionally wrong, strategy behind them, same as any other like corporate . Unix and its varients were not thought up as a competeing product to MS's OS's . Different market at the time, obviously they have changed though . I don't begrudge MS's and Bill Gates' success . He's clawed his way to the top of the heap but to be blunt if it ain't him or MS it will be some other entity sitting on top of thre pile . Cheers Murray P	Muzzer (238)
152118	2003-06-20 10:49:00	heh,car manufacters will only repair a vechicle while under warrenty,so that dont apply. A recall?....a recall consists of every vechicle of a particler run being returned to an approved agent so modifications can be done,this has only ever happened for safty reasons and 99.9 percent of the time has been ordered to happpen by the governing body in America. I dont see the connection. Any piece of siftware has a lifespan,Cant see why it becomes an issue at all when its time of official suport is up,win98 was great in.....1988,times have changed.Its been five years,it aint like they turned there back on it in 1999....	metla (154)
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