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Thread ID: 34634	2003-06-19 05:41:00	Huge filesize when digital photos are inserted	jasestu (4047)	Press F1

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153517	2003-06-19 05:41:00	Your average MSWord or PowerPoint file will growth to mammoth proportions when digital photos are inserted and manipulated incorrectly. As per my spiel to some colleagues: "When you resize a picture after you've inserted it into a document, the picture only appears smaller - all the original information is still contained within the file. This extra information is not displayed and only takes up space and slows the computer. The image needs to be resized using a photo editor." And wrt pasting: "NEVER JUST SIMPLY USE PASTE OR USE CTRL-V! This is because the default format in which the picture is pasted depends on the application that it's coming from. Sometimes the default format is a bitmap, which will result in the picture taking up a lot of space. The picture will look the same when pasted as a 'picture' format, but will take up much less space." Now we've covered the background I would like to know if anyone is aware of a quick way or some software that would automatically take all the digital pictures from a document and resize/reformat them to minimise the amount of space they take up? The approach would need to be able to optimise for either display on screen or printing - because when you print you'd want to leave the images at a bit higher resolution. (I know converting to pdf is one solution, but what I'd like is a way to do it and the file remain as a .doc or .ppt) By way of an example - I recently opened a 150 mb presentation (mainly photos). I cut out the photos, resized them, and pasted them back in as jpg. The filesize was reduced to 5 mb and the presentation displayed without any visible loss in quality.	jasestu (4047)
153518	2003-06-19 06:38:00	I don't know of any software that will pull all images out of a document and resize them automatically (at least non-commercial products). The best way would be to train people to use the correct technique in the first place when adding images to documents or powerpoint presentations. As you say, I imagine a lot of people do not realise by simply copying and pasting a jpg into a doc or ppt will result in a bitmap sized image and will soon quickly blow out your file size. The correct method to preserve the jpg file size/format is to use Insert > Picture > From file and then browse to the location of the image you want to insert. Having the image already trimmed to the correct pixel size is even better.	Jen C (20)
153519	2003-06-19 10:32:00	Hi. When using powerpoint, photos only need to be 72 or 96 dpi, as that is all that monitors or data projectors display. The quickest way to reduce multiple files would be to use a batch processor in Adobe Photoshop or Corel photopaint etc	superOman (745)
153520	2003-06-19 11:28:00	IrfanView is a great little program that might be what you want and is free.	mikebartnz (21)
153521	2003-06-19 14:31:00	Yep Irfanview. I use it to batch convert the photo's to JPEG then insert in word or whatever. Difference is huge, I have a 50MB word file that would be in the region of 500MB if the images were BMP or TIFF. How low can you go with the dpi before reducing printing quality? Even at 50MB it's not a very managable file. Cheers Murray P	Muzzer (238)
153522	2003-06-19 20:14:00	Thanks for your responces folks, and quick ones at that! But before anyone else replys I'll just restate the fact that I well aware of how to minimise the filesize myself, and have tried preaching it to collegues. What I'm after is a program or script or whatever that could go through a document and correct the images. CTRL-SHIFT-F9 can help a little sometimes but you've still got to go through and do it on every picture. Even just something that would convert things pasted as Microsoft Photo Editor Objects into 'Picture' (Same as the effect of cutting out the picture and using paste as to put it back in). Even this (with no resizing) would help reduce the massive size of the collection of files I've inherited. Thanks again all. :)	jasestu (4047)
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