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Thread ID: 34963 2003-06-29 03:25:00 Craig Bellhouse FAQ 42 Networking kbcad (1025) Press F1
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156033 2003-06-29 03:25:00 I have just purchased a Dell 4600 2.4 GHz 256 Mb RAM running WIN XP home.
I need to network it to my existing 660MHz machine 256 Mb RAM running Win 98SE.
I followed the Windows XP Wizard (I also followed the instructions of the XP Wizard and ran the ZP disk on my old PC), and your FAQ 42, and although the 2 machines appear connected, I can only see network 1 on the first PC and network 2 on the second PC. I ran the Ping diagnostic on both machines, and got an inactive link answer. When I ran "ping 127.0.0.1" all seemed to be OK, but still no contact. My old PC was given the IP address of "192.168.0.1" and a Subnet mask of "255.255.255.0" as recommended, but the new PC has an IP address of "169.254.226.49" and a subnet mask of "255.255.0.0". I have 2 different computer names, and a common Workgroup name. I admit to being a bit out of my depth here, and any help would be much appreciated. KB.
kbcad (1025)
156034 2003-06-29 03:34:00 the new pc is set for using dhcp and you have not set an ip address for it
The first step will be to give it one (start settings - network settings - lan - properties) (169.254.226.49 address range (169.*.*.*) is an assigned address when no DHCP server is available)
Marty2001 (421)
156035 2003-06-29 03:42:00 Yes, they won't talk because they are on different Class C networks. (shown by the 192.168.0.xxx, and 169.254.226.yyy IP addresses). Tell the new one that it is 192.168.0.2 and it will all magically work. :D

The 127.0.0.1 address used for testing does not use the cable or the Ethernet cards ... it only tests that the TCP/IP stack in the "localhost" (the one you are doing "ping 127.0.0.1" from) is (a) installed, and (b) working.
Graham L (2)
156036 2003-06-29 05:18:00 Many thanks for replies. I am a bit closer, but not quite home......

Followed instructions on new (#2) PC (Win XP) as follows;
Start:My Network Places:View Network connection: Right click on "Local area connection":Properties: Internet Protocol (properties)"
Set IP adress to 192.168.0.2
Submask 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway 192.168.0.1
DNS server preferred 192.168.0.1
DNS server alternate 192.168.0.2

Result: In Explorer `kbcad' (#1 PC) now shows up under MSHome along with the #2 PC (an improvement on previously. However, clicking on same brings up the following message: \\kbcad is not accessible. You might not have permission, etc. Contact Administrator. The Network path was not found.

On #1 PC, going into Network Neighbourhood I had the "torch" searching for 10 mins. before I called it off.

As before, all advice much appreciated. KB.
kbcad (1025)
156037 2003-06-29 05:27:00 are you using a Switch/Hub?? or just a cable
if it just a cable you need a "Cross Over Cable"
sc0ut (2899)
156038 2003-06-29 05:30:00 ohh and i personaly prefer 192.168.1.1 as an IP range
my work, school & collage use it
sc0ut (2899)
156039 2003-06-29 05:32:00 at each pc, using network neighbourhood, click on the pc that you are at.
It should show c drive or something you have shared as being available
If not - share something and make sure you can see it at the PC that is sharing it first in its own network neighbourhood
If you can , then you need to make users with the same username and password
It doesn't sound like you need a xover cable as one pc has popped up in the others network neighbourhood
Marty2001 (421)
156040 2003-06-29 05:44:00 The cable is actually 2 cables, one male to male the other male to female. The male ends go into the back of the PC's. The Computer shop told me this replaced a hub. One of the cables is second hand, but I get a light at each PC. KB. kbcad (1025)
156041 2003-06-29 05:47:00 Yes - the second one is the crossover - so now you just need to set up sharing and usernames Marty2001 (421)
156042 2003-06-29 05:47:00 Just a quick note, If you have a software firewall running disconnect it, as this will cause the problem described here by you. The ResinMaster (3820)
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