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Thread ID: 128160	2012-12-04 01:27:00	Wow - just got new new website to number 1 in Google in 2 weeks!	Digby (677)	PC World Chat

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1316415	2012-12-23 00:47:00	Hope you have permission to use the logos of the company on your website.	QW. (15883)
1316416	2012-12-23 03:42:00	Hope you have permission to use the logos of the company on your website. Not for all of them, I don't But I am writing to them all in time. I hope they won't turn down publicity I also hope they won't sue me I also hope they will pay to be there	Digby (677)
1316417	2012-12-23 04:14:00	Good luck with that :)	ChazTheGeek (16619)
1316418	2012-12-23 04:48:00	:lol: Ahh, the old "Better to ask forgiveness than permission"	Agent_24 (57)
1316419	2012-12-23 05:02:00	I know from experience that it is very hard to get hold of the decision maker in some/many companies. Many do not have email addresses on their websites (Form 2 Mail) Many do not reply to emails Many do not reply to Form 2 Mails Some Form 2 Mails just don't work ! Some don't have contact phone numbers on their websites And if you do phone them you may spend several days trying to get through the receptionist And then if you do get a phone extension number off her, you may spend another few days/s weeks trying to phone them as they will be away, out at a meeting, on holiday etc, or their answer phone will say they are away. And the bigger the company, the worse they are. All that just to ask them if I can use their logo!	Digby (677)
1316420	2012-12-23 05:42:00	You might want to alt-tag (www.seoshout.com) the images, and perhaps no follow them if linking to their sites. Perhaps also add captions and title tags. This involves a bit more work. But don't overdo with keywords for the tags. Tags help in SEO and a bit of visibility in Google Images search. Better yet would be for them to link to your site, but of course need compelling reasons for them to do so. That empty domain (www.kiwifern.co.nz/)was a shopping site which you can browse at the internet archives. (http:) Oddly it still has relatively high domain strength (check here at open site explorer (http://www.opensiteexplorer.org/) - and other urls) which may account it's high ranking, even though no content. Also see who is linking to that domain. Some ideas for getting content here (searchenginewatch.com) and common marketing research tools, which I use a bit listed here. (marketingland.com sing&utm_content=The+Moz+Top+10+-+October+2012%2C+Issue+1&utm_campaign=Moz+Top+10+-+Oct+%231+10.04.12)	kahawai chaser (3545)
1316421	2012-12-23 06:13:00	@Kahawai Chaser Thanks, those are very helpful tips When you say don't overdo with keywords for the tags, do you mean the image tags? or the meta tags in the header ? I plan to catch that empty domain site within a few weeks! (I'm rising one raking a week at the moment) It does make a bit of a mockery of Google's algorhyms though. But as you say they must have some good links. But I don't have an Alexa ranking yet. I have registered with them, but maybe I need to wait fro their 3 month average to kick in. My site has only been with Alexa for a month or so. Or maybe I don't have enough hits yet. Yes getting links is very hard to do, and as you say they need to have a compelling reason to link to my site. I remember when the web first started people used to have a links page!	Digby (677)
1316422	2012-12-23 07:21:00	All tags really, keyword stuffing as it's called, is frowned on by the search engines. It can incurr a penalty by reducing rankings. No Alexa ranking? Low visitors (and importantly time on site - bounce rate), means no kind of ranking, for alexa, PR, Moz rank, etc. Surely you don't need Alexa as a measure of visitations? Nor be that bothered about it. It's targeted relevant visitors you want. I have one micro niche blog with less than 20 daily visitors but high conversions - i.e. ad clicks, low bounce rate, over 3 mins time on site, etc. Another I have over 3x as many visitors but little conversions. I use that one as a gateway directory. Marketers told me to first worry about content generation for your targeted visitors/prospects, and any kind of web page ranking should earn iteslf. Alexa I hear nothing about from some of the net's top affiliate marketers, and marketing sites. It might serve for large informational and transactional sites, as a marketing feature for selling sites, web dominance, promotion etc, but those sites have 100's (1000's) of pages, back links, citations, and social signals. Bit odd Google still list that domain - funnier still is why that site owners delisted their products from a prime page rank position. Makes sense to buy it I guess. Getting links, imo is seen as the thorn for many marketers, because it involves a ton of work. Though many use to pay to join private networks (or create their own, often hundreds of thin sites using automated article generators), and get back links from other members sites/farm sites to juice up their main site. This all crashed earlier this year when Google booted out private networks/blog and site farms from their database. Still many ways to get links, but the best I hear is to create link worthy content (www.ericward.com) (from link moses - one of the net's/pre-net best link buliders). That is to try attract links naturally, i.e. endorsement from other sites/social media/directories, etc. Make sure that domain you buy acquired their links legitmatley. Check it's history. I have read horror stories where new domain owners lost rankings, income, and trust, because previous owners used black hat techniques, and hence were punsihed from the search engines. This is due to Google recurring Panda (searchengineland.com)/Penquin (searchengineland.com) algo updates and the Google dance (marketingland.com) returning - a concern to marketers using questionable techniques or no techniques at all, e.g not remaining fresh (another algo factor) with useful quality content I think the user net directory (usenet forum) is what you referiing to, i.e links, as today the net today is still a series of links. Some better than others.	kahawai chaser (3545)
1316423	2012-12-23 08:38:00	@Kahawai Chaser Once again, very iteresting. As a self taught amateur marketer over 4 years on the internet, I have come to study Alexa ratings. Sure, hits and conversion are what really matter to all of us. I use Statcounter as I find Google Analytics too tedious. But when I look at a site the first thing I do is look at its Alexa rating in my tool bar. For some sites I write them down. Then when I visit again in a year of six months I can see if they are becoming more or less popular. People who say they don't use or trust Alexa are luddites imho. Eg Google Is no 1 on Alexa, Amazon is about 20 and ebay is about 23. Pinterest that everyone jokes about is on 37 it it rose to that level very quickly. Those sites are very popular. The major banks in NZ have very high NZ Alexa ratings, as they are used a lot. If I wanted to advertise on a website I look at its Alexa rating if it is 10,000,000 then I forget about it, as to me, it means they are not getting many hits, so my ad will not get seen. If you look at some of the top affiliate and banner ad sites, they will have very high Alexa ratings. If you look at the cheap ones, they have lower Alexa's. As regards links I am not going to buy any or try to get any via black hat means. If someone wants to link to my site, then that is great. But as you say, they will only do it if they feel it suits their needs or their viewers. I will take note of what you say about Tag stuffing. I'll check out your blogs (again)	Digby (677)
1316424	2012-12-23 09:43:00	I see, you have good reason to use Alexa, i.e. for high traffic ad placement. I admit I might occassionally use their site info page (www.alexa.com) for demographic research for targeting USA audiences. Others I use include Quantcast, (www.quantcast.com/) Google Trends, (http:) Google Adplanner (double click) (www.google.com) (for high traffic ad placement sites), Microsofts Ads Intelligence (formerly Adlabs (advertise.bingads.microsoft.com)) Spyfu (www.spyfu.com/) free version, and the relatively new and popular Compete com. (http:) I use to use them a lot when I did ppc on Google's Adwords campaigns, but too time consuming. So I quit - Now Google are again offering me a few months to get back in for free. Dunno what to do there. Anyway Comparisons (blog.kissmetrics.com) of Alexa, etc from kissmetrics who have a great blog (http://blog.kissmetrics.com/) about marketing.	kahawai chaser (3545)
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