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Thread ID: 132331 2013-05-14 04:13:00 Are these good specs for money/gaming quality? Daniel78 (17080) Press F1
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1341290 2013-05-17 00:17:00 neither computer quoted comes with a monitor. it is hard to guess which resolution dan will be using.

chilling those fps are quite high; is performance not good enough?

i would suggest a better cpu. always a better cpu.

when building my mum's computer i opted for the Celeron G1610 over the AMD e350. always a better cpu.
Mirddes (10)
1341291 2013-05-17 00:46:00 Better CPU is wrong coz the CPU usually does SFA when it comes to gaming, compared with the graphics card.

As mentioned, I was happily running a 6850 on a 3.2Ghz AMD and the GPU was still the bottleneck for everything *except* Borderlands2. Granted there's always a point where one is the bottleneck and not the other, but I find that (roughly) as a rule of thumb your GPU should cost 3x what your CPU cost.

Performance was fine on my 6850, but I wanted to make sure it wasn't dipping when I'd get in to the thick of a battle. You wanna *aim* for somewhere around / over 100fps in normal circumstances during a game, so that if you do something like have a smoke bomb thrown right under you, or a high spell gets cast, you don't want it to dip under 60fps. That way it stays nice and *smooth* :)

Celeron has never been a good CPU for gaming, can't tell if trolling or not?!
Chilling_Silence (9)
1341292 2013-05-17 01:00:00 overclocked celerons have long been popular for gaming. tell me 22nm ivybridge is bad for gaming.

you cant tell if im trolling (which im not) and i can't tell if you're an elitist snob (good sir id not want to defame you)

A BETTER PSU, more ram, bigger/better SSD, a 4ghz overclock and a half decent gpu (her case is limited to single slot, hd7750 is good enough for most people) and my mum's computer would be a sweet gaming pc. ( not to mention a $150 copy of windows NT6)

a better cpu cooler would probably come in handy.

sure it wouldn't win any benchmarks but it would sure hold its own.



WHERE IS METLA???
Mirddes (10)
1341293 2013-05-17 01:04:00 And keep Task Manager open on your second monitor and tell me how much of that CPU is idle huh? ;) Chilling_Silence (9)
1341294 2013-05-17 01:23:00 its mostly idle even on a 10 year old cpu Mirddes (10)
1341295 2013-05-17 02:00:00 we don't know what games Daniel intends to play. Mirddes (10)
1341296 2013-05-17 03:08:00 Exactly, it's mostly idle, my point exactly, but your GPU *won't* be. Your GPU (Unless you're vsync'ing) will always try and pump out as many FPS as it can.

The games intended at this stage don't really matter. Considering you can pick up a quad-core 3.6Ghz AMD from $140 (Who cares if it's not as "high performing" as an Intel counterpart, at that price, if it's not the bottleneck), there's really no reason to want to spend big on a CPU for gaming at this point in time coz it *won't* be the bottleneck.

Yeah there are *extereme* cases where that's not the case, but the general rule of thumb still stands, regardless of the game they're wanting to play.
Chilling_Silence (9)
1341297 2013-05-17 03:30:00 oh definitely.

$350 for a good gpu is a fair price

modern cpus are amazing
Mirddes (10)
1341298 2013-05-17 08:27:00 even my 4 year old HD4850 is cpu bound.

It's not.
icow (15313)
1341299 2013-05-17 11:04:00 It's not.

pretty sure it is, plenty of anicdotal evidence to suggest my claim is true.

overclocking from 1.8 to 3ghz gives huge performance boost on a 65nm pentium

reports around the net say moving to i7 with hd4850 gives a noticable performance boost.

gpus are usually cpu bound.

cheap cpus get better and better every year.
Mirddes (10)
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