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Thread ID: 132331	2013-05-14 04:13:00	Are these good specs for money/gaming quality?	Daniel78 (17080)	Press F1

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1341270	2013-05-14 08:43:00	I don't like the look of the Raidmax cases... I don't like the look of anything raidmax :p	icow (15313)
1341271	2013-05-14 22:26:00	I'm really liking the look of the Fractal Design R4 at the moment, if $200 for a case isn't out of the budget.	wratterus (105)
1341272	2013-05-14 23:03:00	i recently built my mum an ITX system for $650 H77M-itx motherboard Celeron G1610 2.6ghz cpu 2GB ram 32GB ssd aywun A1-1001 itx case slim dvd drive usb3 card reader it wouldnt take much to make her computer quite a potent gaming machine for all but enthusiests. her 250W psu and 1 expansion slot does limit her gaming options, but she doesnt game. certianly enough for the cod and minecraft crowd $1111 is plenty for a gaming machine $1300 is tonnes computer lounge is a fair suggestion.	Mirddes (10)
1341273	2013-05-14 23:07:00	The mighty ape one is pretty good, you could write down the specs and ask computerlounge for a quote on something similar if you want to see what they can do. About all I'd consider changing myself is the PSU and the graphics card, a GTX670 or HD7970 would be a better long term investment than a GTX660 IMHO and a corsair or seasonic or other good quality PSU would be a little better than the cooler master one. Cooler master are ok but their cheaper PSUs are prone to the same exagerated power ratings that the crappy brands indulge in so you need a bit of extra headroom if you buy one, e.g. a 600W one instead of a 500 or 550. That said I'm sure the mighty ape system would be fine as is. As a comparison I just built a 2nd smaller machine to carry to LANs with me using an i3 and a GTX650 Ti boost, I haven't tried too many games on it but so far I'm quite impressed with it and it's lower specced than I'd normally reccomend for gaming. Far cry 3 runs very nicely on it at 1080P, WoW is over 60fps on high settings (WoW is a lot more demanding on hardware than people give it credit for), portal 2 looks and runs great. To be honest it's hard to tell the difference from my main machine with it's GTX580 and i53770K in most games. Incidentally don't confuse the 650 Ti boost with the non boost version - very different performance knocking on the heels of a 660	dugimodo (138)
1341274	2013-05-14 23:36:00	i recently built my mum an ITX system for $650 H77M-itx motherboard Celeron G1610 2 . 6ghz cpu 2GB ram 32GB ssd aywun A1-1001 itx case slim dvd drive usb3 card reader it wouldnt take much to make her computer quite a potent gaming machine for all but enthusiests . her 250W psu and 1 expansion slot does limit her gaming options, but she doesnt game . certianly enough for the cod and minecraft crowd $1111 is plenty for a gaming machine $1300 is tonnes computer lounge is a fair suggestion . I beg to differ sir . I would consider to make a "potent" gaming machine out of that, I would start again!! And $1300 is tonnes? I would say $1300 is a start . Probably get your CPU, MB, RAM and maybe graphics if you didnt go high end . To be honest it's hard to tell the difference from my main machine with it's GTX580 and i53770K in most games . Typo there dugi? :D	Iantech (16386)
1341275	2013-05-15 02:07:00	i wager that with a single slot hd7750 my mum's computer will run most games faster and prettier than current consoles @ 1366x768. some more ram and more storage wouldn't go amiss. what games is Daniel planning on playing? a raid5 array would complement even the biggest SSDs spend less than $1500 or spend more than $3000 the middleground is silly. ____ here is a video of BF3 playing on a system similar to my mums (with aforementioned 7750HD) www.youtube.com spend less than $1000 or more than $2000 alternatively. money is funny. whatever you build or get; i know you'll be happy with it Daniel.	Mirddes (10)
1341276	2013-05-15 02:18:00	Typo there dugi? :D perhaps wishful thinking, I almost bought an i7. i5 3570k it should read for anyone who missed it. Also I concur, a celeron of any kind is at best ok for gaming, never potent. The pentiums are not bad but I'd start with an i3 as a minimum if building a machine expressly for gaming or actually probably a quad core AMD if on a budget. I stick with intel because I intend to swap parts between my machines at some point or I would have gone AMD for the cheaper one. Review/ Benchmark sites used to reccomend i3 over Phenom 2 for gaming, but recently that trend has reversed because more games are taking advantage of 4 or more cores and although the i3 is still quite competitve it is not as good for truly threaded applications. If you can afford an i5 or i7 of course forget the arguments and go for that, unmatched for gaming performance currently.	dugimodo (138)
1341277	2013-05-15 03:01:00	i wager that with a single slot hd7750 my mum's computer will run most games faster and prettier than current consoles @ 1366x768. some more ram and more storage wouldn't go amiss. what games is Daniel planning on playing? a raid5 array would complement even the biggest SSDs spend less than $1500 or spend more than $3000 Yes but all the consoles barring the Wii-U run at full 1080p, yes? I'd personally much prefer 1080p, I never game at anything less. I think you'd also be hard pressed to find a RAID5 that'll beat a SSD for performance, though not sure why you'd bother with the redundancy of a RAID5 setup when you could just go RAID0 for better performance.	Chilling_Silence (9)
1341278	2013-05-15 03:13:00	perhaps wishful thinking I think Iantech is talking about the grocer's apostrophe..........	BBCmicro (15761)
1341279	2013-05-15 03:13:00	RAID has it's place, the average home user's PC isn't it. It doesn't compare at all with SSD because it's seek time that's the big difference not maximum transfer rate. RAID 5 requires a compatible controller & at least 3 RAID capable hard drives. The average user would see more benefit for less money with a 120Gb SSD and a 1-2TB storage drive and Ideally a portable Hdd for backups. The difference between a conventional hdd and an SSD is immediately apparent, the difference between RAID and no RAID is often difficult to tell. I wanted to go RAID for a while, tried it out a bit, realised it's not worth the hassle. RAID 0 or 1 is the only RAID I'd consider in a normal users PC, either for performance or hdd failure protection. But a regular backup schedule easily is better than RAID 1 and apart from slightly faster launch times most people won't notice anything better about RAID 0.	dugimodo (138)
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