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157230	2003-07-03 11:44:00	I had HEAPS typed out but I broke the number one rule of computing! SAVE SAVE SAVE! I was using open office writer and I though hmmm... whats this, and clicked on gallery. BIG MISTAKE. *soffice has caused an illegal operation and will now close* "What... not a trusted application?" GGGRRRRAAAARRRAAARRRRGGGHHH! Can someone help me. It won't come up with *Would you like to Recover Untitled1.sxw?* p.s. the ironic thing is it had three bars beside 'Saving Document..." in the status bar AS IT CRASHED!	hamstar (4)
157231	2003-07-06 05:46:00	It is probably too late to help you now hamstar, but you should search for files by date and check all files of suitable size with tmp or other appropriate suffixes on the date of your *ahem* incident . If there was a reasonably unique word or phrase in your text, add that to the search terms or do a * . * (all files) search for that word or phrase . I use a file manager called Ztree for this as it allows me to view the contents of each file to see if it contains the test I want but Windows search should be equally effective, if a little less flexible . Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
157232	2003-07-06 07:48:00	Billy T can you explain that a bit more for me? last fortnight i lost info, and considered it irritrevable as it was not all saved ...... are you telling me i could have found it? it was in works though. and so i lost my last half page "the summary" of my report. and the replacement was nowhere near as good as original that was lost. i save at the end of every paragraph. i have been told or had heard you could put it on auto save, but am unsure how to do this? can it be set to save every two mins or something like that? thanxs beetle	beetle (243)
157233	2003-07-06 09:08:00	> i have been told or had heard you could put it on > auto save, but am unsure how to do this? > can it be set to save every two mins or something > like that? If you have MS word it should be on by default (not too sure about that) What version of MS office / word do you have??? To check & see if auto save is on: In word have looks under Tools > options then click on the save tab (Note: I have word 2000 so it might different in other versons) Hope this helps	stu140103 (137)
157234	2003-07-06 11:04:00	but Stu i have works not word remember? so that does work (LOL) beetle	beetle (243)
157235	2003-07-06 12:08:00	> but Stu i have works not word remember? > > so that does work (LOL) oh....... :(, sorry I cant help here, I dont have works :8} Does any one else have any ideas????? ?:|	stu140103 (137)
157236	2003-07-06 12:12:00	sorry re read it and it does work i guess on word but as i have works i cannot tell if some other method works...... thanxs Stu beetle	beetle (243)
157237	2003-07-07 02:33:00	Hi beetle Some programs create temporary files while open and these can remain on your HDD after a crash . For example, Word creates * . wbk files while set to autosave but also creates temp files . These are saved on your HDD in C:\Windows\tmp, C:\tmp, or other temp file locations . The best search is the file date, and if I lose a file I search for text content or file suffixes at or about the date I lost the file . I recently recovered notes made for a training seminar several months after the event by searching for files dated the day before I did the presentation . I found no less than five files, each with a little more content and the last one was the full 9 yards . :D Apparently "lost" files can also occur if you inadvertently save in the wrong format (or forget to manually add the suffix in some cases) and patient searching will often yield results . I never give up until I have checked all options . Although I use Works from time to time, I don't know if auto-recovery data is available, but if you saved at the end of each paragraph the last save should still be there somewhere . Note that auto-recovery and auto-save are different functions . Auto-recovery saves a temp file and if not used it is deleted after the program is closed (or on reboot, I am not sure which) . If auto recovery fails, don't reboot but leave the program open and go search the temp folders where you will almost always find it there for the asking . Auto-save should leave a copy of the file in the usual directory but if that appears to fail, a search often brings results (as in my own recent eaperiance described above) . I keep auto-save enabled and set to save at 1 minute intervals as I never seem to be able to recover quite the same turn of phrase as I had before a crash . :( I do not like to use Windows' search functions as I find them too slow and too inflexible . I use ZTree because it is fast and 100% reliable, and I can look inside every file instantly (using the View function) and also text search within files . Ztree will index all files on my HDD for searching in less than a minute and I can locate & recover files before Windows search has got past the starting gate . I wrote a post on this topic several months ago, and from memory I went into more detail so a PF1 search might be in order . Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
157238	2003-07-09 11:41:00	finally got back to checking other posts and found you had answered my query thank you Billy t. not sure what term you are talking about to search for? and does works have an auto save feature? but generally i understood your post (Wow thats a first!) maybe need to copy this answer / post to remember for next time! when i lose more data? thanxs beetle	beetle (243)
157239	2003-07-10 02:11:00	Hi beetle Sorry, I shold have explained better. "Search Term" means the file name, folder or text information you want to search for. Your original file name is no direct help if you are looking for an automatically generated back up or temp file and nor is a folder name. The best search is for "all files" for which you enter *.* as the search term then you refine it in the "Containing Text" pane by entering a phrase or numeral/text string that is unique to the missing document. It is best to learn about these things by searching for files that are not lost and seeing how easily you can locate them. The principles are similar to web searches and you need practice to help refine your search terms and technique. Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
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