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Thread ID: 35348 2003-07-09 13:18:00 Stupid Question About Which CPU I Should Buy ComputerWalrus (3973) Press F1
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158563 2003-07-10 02:34:00 I don't know if I would worry too much about just the CPU.
Make sure you get the best motherbord to do the things you want it to do.
Eg: I wish I had got one with on-board ethernet and raid.
Otherwise, I just have installed an Athlon 2500 Barton which if buying from new, seems to be best value for money.

Celerons are hopeless for gaming and Durons are dead in the water.
How about Soltek SL-75MRN-L? $220. 2500 Barton $200. 512 333Mhz mem $120. Any flavour hdd/cd/dvd you like, mix into a case; vola! Enjoy.

If fiddling with pcs is your new hobby, whatever you get, you will probably want to change it within to long anyway.
At a guess, the entire new box could be had for $600-$700 +gst?

If fiddling with pcs is your new hobby, whatever you get, you will probably want to change it within to long anyway.

If you really wanted to skimp, use your old cd/hdd/monitor/kboard/mouse/etc?
Buy new ones when you have the money.
Curious George (3535)
158564 2003-07-10 08:17:00 " Anyway,the atholon spanks the celeron and the p4,so ya cant go wrong "

The celeron yes.
The P4. Whatever !

Celerons fill an important niche though. Where else can you get a chip for less than 200 bucks and overclock to 3000+ on air with a stock cooler. The posing value is immense even though they still run like a gutted dog.

If you can afford it buy a northwood p4, The 2.4s are an excellent chip and ripe for overclocking. If you cant an Athlon is a fine alternative.
the highlander (245)
158565 2003-07-10 09:19:00 "Where else can you get a chip for less than 200 bucks and overclock to 3000+ on air with a stock cooler"

AMD Athlon to be precise, I've got a 1800+(payed $140) now sitting up at 2.2ghz(3200+). Celeron in my opinion have NO place in the market, the Athlon is a superiror chip all round that for a similar price can often bet out a P4
Pete O'Neil (250)
158566 2003-07-10 09:22:00 With a stock air cooler?? Doubt it.

Lo.
Lohsing (219)
158567 2003-07-10 09:27:00 yip stock cooler on there and everything. EPOX 8RDA+(modded NB cooler) 512mb Kingston Hyper X PC3500 and random other assorted peices. Pete O'Neil (250)
158568 2003-07-10 09:35:00 And the temperature of your CPU is...?

Lo.
Lohsing (219)
158569 2003-07-10 09:58:00 37c when surfing the net doin random windows type stuff
42c after some BF1942 and classic UT
Pete O'Neil (250)
158570 2003-07-13 11:08:00 "Where else can you get a chip for less than 200 bucks and overclock to 3000+ on air with a stock cooler"

> AMD Athlon to be precise, I've got a 1800+(payed $140) now sitting up at 2.2ghz(3200+). Celeron in my opinion have NO place in the market, the Athlon is a superiror chip all round that for a similar price can often bet out a P4 <


Like I said. "Where else can you get a chip for less than 200 bucks and overclock to 3000+ on air with a stock cooler" not a PR rating, an actual 3000+ reading on post.
Yes an athlon is definitely a superior chip to a celeron in every aspect except reliability and cpu operating temps which is why they are a popular choice for workstations and home elcheapo systems. They are a cpu that is at a disadvantage in running many applications but the buyers of systems made up from these cpus:
1. Often wouldn't notice the difference
2. Dont care because they rarely use those applications that celerons run
poorly.
3. Are happy to have a relatively powerful intel cpu that is within the
price range they can afford. And when i mean relatively I mean in the
context of a person who has a cyrix 333 system (another PR rating )
and upgrades to a celeron. To a person in those circumstances a
celeron is sheer magic.
Yep I also know that i could do an an athlon upgrade for a similar price and it would slap down any celeron based system but since I only charge them the cost of the parts plus a carrot cake for my labour( a hobby) I really dont want to see the system back in again for repairs and I find that I rarely if ever see a celeron based system again.
the highlander (245)
158571 2003-07-13 12:40:00 I say if your going for Athlon, you shoud definately get Barton.

Also, about the Athlon 2200, and 2400.
www6.tomshardware.com
Go to the comparison table at the bottom.

The comparison shows that the 2200 beats the 2400. Dunno if this is true, but thats what this chart says.

There is also some newer comparisons with the Atlhon 3200 somewhere.
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