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Thread ID: 128334 2012-12-13 06:25:00 Wonder what the definition of failure is then tut (12033) PC World Chat
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1318009 2012-12-13 06:25:00 If this is the governments idea of success no wonder the country is in the poo.




Copied from online news item

The government is claiming success with its boot camps for young offenders, despite the majority who completed the last course going on to reoffend.
tut (12033)
1318010 2012-12-13 06:35:00 Good spotting Tut!

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WalOne (4202)
1318011 2012-12-13 07:04:00 Dare I say...priceless? :D KarameaDave (15222)
1318012 2012-12-13 16:49:00 Question: Wonder what the definition of failure is then

Answer: Coming to pressF1 and try and be helpful.
Frank_sumbody (16923)
1318013 2012-12-13 18:10:00 Maybe boot camps are a training ground for crime and are therefore a success because these young people go on to reoffend. :confused:

Maybe it is a bad bit of reporting.
Bobh (5192)
1318014 2012-12-13 19:17:00 For an example, (but not quite a definition) it is hard to go past "Think Big". R2x1 (4628)
1318015 2012-12-16 09:58:00 To play devil's advocate, the camps are exhibiting some degree of success if those who have gone through have a lower rate of reoffending than if they had not.

Just because their reoffending rate is over 50% does not make it a failure - it's possible the rate would be much higher if the youths had just gone to prison instead.

On the other hand there is no data that proves them to be a success yet either.
george12 (7)
1318016 2012-12-16 10:02:00 Indeed, I'd agree with george there. I think the reporting is the failure in this instance. It probably should read something like the boot camps are being hailed as a success despite the majority reoffending however the offences are minor/lower that what is predicted had the offenders been jailed etc etc The Error Guy (14052)
1318017 2012-12-16 10:11:00 For an example, (but not quite a definition) it is hard to go past "Think Big".

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Agent_24 (57)
1318018 2012-12-16 19:33:00 To actually answer the question in the thread title, I'll give you a clue.

It starts with N ends in L and favours the colour blue, a close second
starts with L ends in R and favours the colour red
gary67 (56)
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