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160125	2003-07-16 09:19:00	Hi Susan In the case I am speaking of, all data is kept on the school's servers and well backed up. Teachers use their laptops to research and prepare lessons, access and complete student reports to the server, drive datashow displays, and for email and other web based services. Laptops allow staff to work at home during the evenings and once a secure online facility is in place they will be able to access the server out of hours as well. There is much enthusiasm to intensify their use and lots of cooperative activity among teaching staff. It is a steep learning curve for some who have not been involved very much with computers before, but progress is monitored and assistance given as required. Inevitably some laptops will be under-utilised but that is the nature of the beast. Cheers Billy 8-{) :D	Billy T (70)
160126	2003-07-16 10:15:00	We have one of these laptop for schools at our home. One of my parents got one as they work at the school. Its a toshiba 1.5Ghz Celeron. It came with 256ram, a dvdrom-cd-rw combo drive. What can I say, mm they're alright. Dvd playing is maybe not the smoothest, and those celeron processors aint good for too much, only office aps etc. I suppose they are alright for teachers, but not for their kids wanting to play games etc on them ;)	PoWa (203)
160127	2003-07-16 12:08:00	>"but surely students and teachers should use something that the kids are going to see when they come into the workforce? " I think that this is one of the biggest fallacies of computing in schools . A computer is a tool to do a job - if it does the job who really cares if it is Windows, OS X, Linux , . . . . . Sure, there are other factors that come into it too e . g . cost! If you can use a MS Windows PC, you should be able to very easily adapt to OS X, Linux or whatever . In schools, the emphasis is on doing the task in hand, not learning a particular platform . If you learn the principals of computing, you will be able to use whatever platform you face in the workforce in x years time . All this from a Linux convert!!	JohnD (509)
160128	2003-07-16 12:35:00	as far as fonts are concerened there's numerous free converters available.	metla (154)
160129	2003-07-16 12:41:00	> > "but surely students and teachers should use > something that the kids are going to see when they > come into the workforce? " > > I think that this is one of the biggest fallacies of > computing in schools . A computer is a tool to do a > job - if it does the job who really cares if it is > Windows, OS X, Linux , . . . . . Sure, there are other > factors that come into it too e . g . cost! > > If you can use a MS Windows PC, you should be able to > very easily adapt to OS X, Linux or whatever . In > schools, the emphasis is on doing the task in hand, > not learning a particular platform . If you learn the > principals of computing, you will be able to use > whatever platform you face in the workforce in x > years time . > > All this from a Linux convert!! i disagree,The reason large orginisations(im refering to the govenment here)wont change to Linux is the cost of retraining,if the next generation came thru the ranks with linux experience then that would be taken care of,They could refuse to hire anyone without linux experience . And the cost of training would be taken care of by the schools . Save the country millions . . . Imagine how many Moari tv stations we could afford then . . . . The ability to sit infront of a puter and run an office application is far to narrow a view to take imo,and just a tiny slice of the spectrem . Just my 3 cents,	metla (154)
160130	2003-07-16 21:22:00	(pulls pin and lobs wet cat into the discussion) In an internet world, why do they need laptops. They are easily stolen, can't be upgraded, and are almost never used without power. Why not buy a desktop for their home and let them log into resources at school? Then they can still ride their bicycle to work and spend half the dosh - plus they get a proper keyboard and screen. I own a 486 laptop and it never got used when it was new, let alone now. Am tempted to get one now and again but resist it easily by considering cost. robo.	robo (205)
160131	2003-07-16 22:37:00	>"but surely students and teachers should use something that the kids are going to see when they come into the workforce< Using this rational only the English language should be taught in schools as this is what they will see in the work force . This would be a rather narrow attitude don't you think . The Laptops are for the teachers use, not the students but as an extension of this schools in the US are far advanced with the use of Laptops for all students and some advantages and the use of wireless networks in the schools are in the following articles . Laptop program seems secure, successful March 2003 Interested in checking out an Apple iBook laptop computer? Your best bet may be to ask a middle-school student for a demo, thanks to former Governor Angus King's ambitious plan to give every seventh and eighth-grader in Maine a laptop computer — 36,000 iBooks in all . Nearly 17,000 of Maine's seventh-graders got new laptop computers in September 2002 . Students and teachers at nine demonstration schools received nearly 700 laptops in the spring of 2002; more than 1,600 eighth-graders are due to get laptops in the fall of 2003 . GUILFORD, Maine - Take one 275-student middle school . Add 175 laptop computers for the students and one for every teacher . Stir in a wireless network with easy access to the Internet and what do you get? An invigorated student body and greatly expanded opportunities for learning if the Piscataquis Community Middle School here is any indication . At the heart of the program, Priest says, is the wireless network that allows students and teachers access to the Internet from anywhere within the school . Every teacher in the school was also equipped with a Macintosh PowerBook . "If they had to plug the laptops into a wall someplace to get Internet access I don't think we would be seeing the impact we have," said Priest . "Untethering the technology has been key, so that it is as easy as using a pencil and piece a paper . "	Jim B (153)
160132	2003-07-17 00:47:00	> (pulls pin and lobs wet cat into the discussion) > > In an internet world, why do they need laptops . They > are easily stolen, can't be upgraded, and are almost > never used without power . > > Why not buy a desktop for their home and let them log > into resources at school? > > > > > Billy grabs wet cat while fuse is still burning and lobs right back through robo's window (s?) Portability is the reason robo, teachers no longer have dedicated classrooms and the ability to take their computer (work and records) to any classroom and log on to the network (if necessary) is a godsend to modern teachers who are up with the play . The advent of NCEA has substantially increased their workload and there is a great deal more work required to assess students work and record those assessments . Manual methods won't cut it . Financial and security considerations limit on-line access from home for many schools, it is easy to achieve with corporate budgets but with schools having to suplement their miserly government stipend by having overseas fee paying students (gala days or bring and buys are no longer enough to fund extras) . Check the newpaper records of charitable trust donations and see how many schools have turned to begging to ensure their students have adequate resources in the classroom and in their extra-curricular activities . Give NZ schools Maori TV's budget and watch us use it more productively (not hard to do) . Even shared amongst all schools it would make a dent in the shortfall . Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
160133	2003-07-17 01:03:00	or even redirect that 35 million pledged to the america's cup campaign into the school system. Im sure our pollies are smokin the weed.	metla (154)
160134	2003-07-17 01:39:00	GF, Can u pls tell me where the two puters are located? I am considering Wireless LAN to share internet and files and the odd game. Our situation is, two bedrooms that is not adjacent to each other but two rooms away from each other with both rooms with closed doors. What is the type of wirelsss u using? 11 or 54 speed and what frequency? Saves us knocking holes via the wall.. Cheers..	nomad (3693)
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