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Thread ID: 35548 2003-07-15 10:38:00 Network Printers. Poppa John (284) Press F1
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160015 2003-07-18 03:00:00 Your 98 machine needs to be configured for TCP.

In control panel, network, check TCP items on list
Is TCP bound to ethernet or PPP? Need one bound to ethernet adaptor, should be two there.

Then go into ethernet one and type in an IP address:
192.168.0.2
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
gateway:nowt (is that the name of the XP machine?)

Once this is saved, then try pinging as per before, type:
ping 192.168.0.2 <enter> from the XP machine, then if that gets four responses and times come up then try ping <98machine name> <enter> and see if you get the same result.

robo.
robo (205)
160016 2003-07-18 04:08:00 Robo. Have completed your Para2,Used first "TCP" which was adaptor & it gave me a Realtek name which I know is the card which is fitted.
How do I get into"ethernet one to do the settings?
"nowt" = nothing, which is what is on the line. XP name is Sigma. 98 name is Dell. Sharename is C . PJ
Poppa John (284)
160017 2003-07-18 04:17:00 That was the ethernet one, the realtek one.

A reboot and then try pinging. As for the nowt thing, damn, need a DNS server but can't do that without setting up AD and can't do that on XP home. I think you have to skip that, but not sure how. I used my ADSL router for DNS (which worked to a point).

Try pinging the other machine from the 98 one now.
robo.
robo (205)
160018 2003-07-18 05:22:00 Robo, your 2nd para. Did reboot & Ipconfig. XP Eth Apapt Local Area Conn
block still the same values. The PPP Adaptor XTRA block has gone.
On the 98,the Eth Apapt info block is the same.
On XP IPCONFIG typed in Dell but not recognised. On the 98, typing in winicfg Sigma gets me an "Options" window. Is this what you expected? PJ
Poppa John (284)
160019 2003-07-18 05:24:00 As before:
IP basics come in very handy with home networking now.

Next thing is to go to the command prompt and ping the IP address of the other machine:
ping 192.168.0.1 <enter> from Win98
and:
ping 192.168.0.2 <enter> from XP machine

Both at command prompt.
Do they see each other?
robo (205)
160020 2003-07-18 05:31:00 You understand now? Merlin (503)
160021 2003-07-18 05:45:00 Merlin. Not yet but I am getting there. A lot of my working life was in Supervision. I learnt early that ' A picture (or demonstration) was worth a thousand words. I think that is true in this case. This is a VERY steep learning curve for me PJ Poppa John (284)
160022 2003-07-18 05:52:00 Robo. On XP. ping the 192.186.2 (or 1) gets me "ping request could not find host 192 etc check the name & try again" Tried it with & without compyter names. Same
W98. Into Start-run ping nos with & without Comp names, get a brief black window with scrolling text which vanishes too quickly to read.
My friend, I feel confident that we (you!!) will lick this. PJ
Poppa John (284)
160023 2003-07-25 04:21:00 Amidst all this flurry to offer slightly more in-depth networking, I find myself stopping to think that nobody has suggested using WinXP's Home Networking Wizard?!

How about we try the following (on the XP machine right now):

Preferrably, save this, or print it out and disconnect before trying this, as things can go differently if the internet connection is active.

Click Start
-Control Panel
-Network Connections
From here, right-click on your Internet Connection and go into the Properties
Click on the Advanced tab
Un-Tick the Firewall for now... just to play safe (You can turn it on later if you wish to do so)
Put a tick in the top-most box under Internet Connection Sharing (Allow other network users to connect through this computers internet connection). If there's already a tick in there, then remove it and close all open windows, then go back to step 1. ;-)
It may prompt you and tell you that your IP address WILL be set to 192.168.0.1
Agree to let it change this if it asks, if it doesnt then it should already be perfectly setup.

Now, click Start
-Run
type in:
cmd
this brings up a command prompt, type in
ipconfig /all
this will give you a detailed list of information about your internet connection and your network card.

It will tell you:
Your ethernet card type
Pshyical address
DHCP enabled (Yes/no)
IP Address = 192.168.0.1
Subnet mask = 255.255.255.0
and the default gateway should be blank!

Give me about 30 mins and I'll then tell you some things to try on the 98 machine :-)

*Feels like he's ripping apart PJ's network here.... It'll come together though, dont worry..*

Next up we're gonna make sure that Dell is assigned a static IP address etc... But I've gotta go offline for a while.. bbl :-)
Chilling_Silently (228)
160024 2003-07-25 07:28:00 Sorry its a lil longer than 30 mins.. and Im in Linux right now so Im totally going by memory :-)

Anyways, we're gonna setup the Dell PC with a static IP and hopefully things will be all peachy:

Firstly, right-click on Network Neighborhood on your desktop and choose Properties
Make sure there is TCP/IP > Ethernet_card_type here
Click on this and choose Properties
In here you want to specify:
IP = 192.168.0.2
Subnet = 255.255.255.0

Next, click on the Gateway tab, and specify:
192.168.0.1
You may want to add the name of the XP machine (Sigma or something isnt it?)

Next, choose DNS servers and add:
202.27.184.3
202.27.184.5
These are the two Xtra DNS servers, which basically converts IP addresses into web addresses, like PressF1.co.nz into 210.48.100.45 which your browser can use to surf.. Hope that makes at least a lil sense.

Save all that and reboot, making sure both are on the same workgroup, and on the 98 machine still, click Start
-Run
type in:
command
type:
ping 192.168.0.1
This sends off 4 small packets of data and expects the XP box to reply, if it does, then they're networked successfully :-)

Now you can start sharing the Printer... ;-)

I hope I havent gone way off the track here with the thread, but at least with this you'll know your network is (hopefully) stable... :-)

Let us know how you get on

Cheers


Chill.
Chilling_Silently (228)
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