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Thread ID: 35558 2003-07-15 21:55:00 Laptops For Teachers Gill (1530) Press F1
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160115 2003-07-16 02:31:00 how about this (www.noelleeming.co.nz) HP? seems cheap and has a writer network card etc Trev0 (1995)
160116 2003-07-16 02:50:00 Thanks everyone for the feedback on my query.
looks like Toshiba is getting the thumbs up so far.
Cheers Gill
Gill (1530)
160117 2003-07-16 02:52:00 Under what conditions have teachers have been supplied with laptops, ie gift, purchase, rent, lease to buy ??? ronmar (3384)
160118 2003-07-16 02:53:00 This is the website for the laptop that is part of the contract - lease for 3 years. Schools pay 1/3rd
www.tela.co.nz

(How do I make that address so you can click on it and go straight there?)
Gill (1530)
160119 2003-07-16 03:10:00 Thank you ronmar (3384)
160120 2003-07-16 04:11:00 Hi ronmar

The deal is a three year lease, with the lease payments are subsidised by the MOE and either the teacher or the school pays the rest. Some schools are charging the teachers, others are paying the full lease cost.

Full payment by the school usually involves some performance and usage obligations on the teacher, but since monetary penalties are not workable, the effect of poor usage is a downgrade on the teachers annual performance review.

There are several levels of specification available within the preferred brands, but the base level is adequate for all but the dedicated road warrior type. The deal is not open to customisation though schools can and will add their own software to the package.

All our school's laptops are imaged so that twinkling finger effects can be put right without excessive time delay or workload for the IT dept. No doubt other schools do likewise.

There is probably something on the MOE website about all this.

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
160121 2003-07-16 04:36:00 Well last time I looked Billy they didn't come with it. It was something you choose to purchase at a cost of around $500 IIRC which includes the program and a copy of Windows XP Home.

I don't think it would be *needed* at all. Can't think of anything that someone on a Mac would need to open that they can't already open on the Mac. Generally the business would use computers which suit to their needs. A Mac or a Linux/BSD/whatever will do that fine for what most companies need I'm picking.

Word/excel/etc is all very compatible. Businesses wouldn't go sharing around their major databases I wouldn't imagine.

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As for the laptops WHY do teachers need them? I forget the last time I saw a computer literate teacher that was teaching at a regular school. Even some of the teachers at the computing colleges and tertiary education providers don't seem to know all that much either.
-=JM=- (16)
160122 2003-07-16 06:08:00 Presently trying a new HP ZE4315 ($1999 + GST) laptop

Probably about the best value retail at the moment

2.2GHz Mobile Celeron, DVD CDRW, FDD, 30 GB HDD, 256 MB DDR RAM, all legacy ports (including RS232!), IRda, TV-out, Firewire, USB, 14.1" screen, 56k ,modem, 10/100 Network, Cardbus/PCMCIA, Audio (Altec Lansing).

Seems quite OK heat wise and battery life. Using it on Wireless networking (Cardbus adapter) so can surf from anywhere in the house.

Interestingly it comes bundled with WordPerfect suite. A really good w/p, but not all that good for compatability now. Pity, it is in some ways better that Word.

A bit overdone with blue LED indicators, lights up like a christmas tree...
godfather (25)
160123 2003-07-16 06:49:00 What are the teachers actually going to do with their laptops??

I know some teachers who have purchased them for themselves for keeping track of pupils' records but I would imagine that they would be motivated to learn enough about computers and "taking care" of them.

If all teachers are going to be using laptops and keeping pupil records on them are they going to be taught how to back up these records? Imagine the disaster it would be if they lost all that information without having a backup.
Susan B (19)
160124 2003-07-16 06:51:00 For what it is worth, I bought a Toshiba Satellite (either a 1400 or 2400 series - can't recall now and it is not with me at the mo) about a year ago. Included Win XP Pro, ethernet, modem, PCMCIA slots etc, DVD drive, 14" screen, 1.3Ghz AMD Duron, 504 Mb RAM).

I am still waiting for its first crash (system that is, not drop from a height). Does everything I need it for and it seems really good quality. Not one of your superthin superfast models but it is great. Networks really well with my desktop over a WLAN, probably because they are both running XP Pro.

Not sure what one person's experience says about a brand, but there it is - and when I was looking around, I got all sorts of good stories about Toshiba and varied opinions about Compaq.

My wife, the teacher, chose a Mac iBook under this deal and she is very happy with it. OSX is a huge an improvement on the earlier versions of MacOS that I had for umpteen years.

I agree with the comments that Macs can do very well with and without Virtual PC in terms of Microsoft office software. My experience of Office 98 was that it was vastly superior to the Windows version. Unfortunately, fonts are slightly different, and this can be sufficient to stuff up formatting when a document is prepared on a Mac and opened on a PC. That is why I had to change to Windows - customer requirements.

Judging by the quality of my wife's computer, and the excellent operating system, I will be going back to the Mac platform when I retire and don't have to be nice to customers any more. And I won't have to worry about virii any more either.

My two cents worth.

John
John H (8)
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