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Thread ID: 35702 2003-07-19 10:27:00 Help PressF1 to help you Elephant (599) Press F1
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161191 2003-07-19 12:43:00 > Let us all blame Microsoft for pretending, or getting
> people to believe, that computers and the Windows
> operating system are entirely intuitive and easy to
> use straight off, first time :)
Yep.... The old "intuitive" bit.
>
> Once upon a time decent manuals were supplied with
> the OS for DOS and Windows 3.x
Very true...
They should never have invented Windows and we could be up to DOS 23.8 by now. :-) That would beat the Mac as their only up to ten.
And we wouldn't have a registry either!!!

>
> Fact is, it is all pretty pretty difficult and
> esoteric, but having said that, I wish people would
> spend just that extra amount when they buy a
> computer, to get a good book or books so that they
> can read up about things.
PC Magazines of various types is what I read and I kept on pushing keys 'til it broke.

PCUser Groups in your local town is another good source of information.
Elephant (599)
161192 2003-07-19 12:44:00 I should think so to!!!!!!!! Elephant (599)
161193 2003-07-19 12:45:00 > > Mum, "Why is my belly button in my head?"
>
> It predisposes you to navel gazing.....a necessary
> attribute for posting helpful replies here.

I thought that all people who came out of the Matrix had those holes ;-)
Chilling_Silently (228)
161194 2003-07-19 13:22:00 Yep... That's what I thought too....

But mine was different to all the others!!!

I had a square one.

:D
Elephant (599)
161195 2003-07-19 13:39:00 > I see your point Elephant,the only problem is,what
> you have just asked for will only be read by readers
> today,so, no point in getting frustrated with what
> may happen tomorrow,is there?
No... I agree... But what I just asked for may be read by readers in the future. There is a search function here you know.

> Classic case,someone will ask abour digi cams,we get
> answers for about 3 days,which says it all,2 days
> later someone asks what digi cam should I buy.Pretty
> obvious even to me that that is the way it must be.
True.... But even so....
I have a right to my opinion and I'm only suggesting that people try to help themselves more.

Just remember the old adage:-
Something like GIVE a Man a fish you feed him today.
TEACH him how to fish you feed him forever.


> As for Dumb Bell,I can say without fear of
> contadiction,there is no one here that doesn't take
> pleasure in helping you out,so it's not you,it's the
> way the format goes,so lift your head and know we are
> with you till the end;)
Well see my recent post to Dumb-Bell. I'm still trying to help now that I know MORE about what is happening.
Elephant (599)
161196 2003-07-20 03:31:00 >
> Just remember the old adage:-
> Something like GIVE a Man a fish you feed him today.
> TEACH him how to fish you feed him forever.
>

I prefer:

“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish; and you can sell him fishing equipment.”

or:

“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish; and you will not have to listen to his incessant whining about how hungry he is.”

Baldy:-)

How you going Elephant. Long time no hear (lost your email addy)
Baldy (26)
161197 2003-07-20 03:52:00 > “Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today.
> Teach a man to fish; and you can sell him fishing
> equipment.”
>
> or:
>
> “Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today.
> Teach a man to fish; and you will not have to listen
> to his incessant whining about how hungry he is.”
I like the second option best.

> How you going Elephant. Long time no hear (lost your
> email addy)

Going OK thanks!!! :-)

tony [ dot ] frew [ at ] xtra [ dot ] co [dot ] nz
Elephant (599)
161198 2003-07-20 04:01:00 People don't read FAQs, they won't read manuals (even if they've got them .

What people will do is say" "My computer doesn't work . HEEELP!!!"

It's the challenge which keeps us here . :D

Terry's right . . . those who have told people "intuitive, user-friendly" have a lot to answer for . It has never been easy . It will never be easy .

When there were manuals, things became nasty when the manuals started being bigger than the computers . (Remember the VAX /VMS Wall of Manuals, anyone? The RT11 books weren't too bad) .
Graham L (2)
161199 2003-07-20 06:17:00 Sorry to be boring and (hopefully) practical :D

- but as a suggestion -
when we enter a post we have to chose a category such as " ; operating system" ; ; " ; general discussion" ; ; " ; application" ; , etc .

Could we not ask our PressF1 gurus to add notes beside each so that when we tick one then we are at the same time reminded - eg . . . . if it is operating system . . . say which operating system you use? If it is an application which version and which operating system do you use ? Each of the six categories has some aspects which would typically lend themselves to particular types of information being more likely to be of relevance .

It is not a foolproof suggestion by any means but it could be useful . What do you think !

:) :)
Misty (368)
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