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| 161040 | 2003-07-19 04:40:00 | Hi I recently got a new pc, and want to set the net up for it, but I realised that the jackpoint at the wall for the room I want it in is one of the old style post office jackpoints, with the old phone that you have to turn to each number. I do have one new style jackpoint in the house but that is about 35 metres from the room. I was wondering is there any way to replace them with the new jackpoints and if so would I need Telecom to do it? Thanks |
pleasehelp (882) | ||
| 161041 | 2003-07-19 05:09:00 | Is it one of those plastic blocks with the screw in the middle? Usually, it would be easier for you if you mounted the new jackpoint right beside it and ran a pair of wires from the screw connections of the old block , to new jackpoint. You could replace it if the wires coming into the old block were about the same size as those will be coming into the other fitting (in the other room), around 0.5mm. |
Pheonix (280) | ||
| 161042 | 2003-07-19 08:08:00 | just get it replaced and ask for your house to be converted to 2-wire at the same time | whetu (237) | ||
| 161043 | 2003-07-20 02:54:00 | If it's an original installation, it might be the heavy wire, which does not do the Krone IDC connections much good. But if one of the modern blocks is chained off it, there should be enough slack on the wire going to the new one to punch the new one onto it. Otherwise go to a shop (DSE or Jaycar) and buy a metre of Cat5 cable (solid conductor). That will give you lots of the wire you need. You can often buy the blocks at building salvage places for $5 or so, which is a bit better than the $20 or so at other places. If it' got the extra components (of a "master block" 2 and 5, and a "3 wire" one will work just as well as a "2 wire" one. If you are paying for maintenance of the wiring in your house, ask if that would cover an upgrade. It probably won't. :D For information on phone connectors use "PTC 200" to the seatch on this page. I've posted the address for the standards. |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 161044 | 2003-07-20 06:15:00 | If this jack is the Telecom "Demarcation" point, they should upgrade it for free, particularily if you are renting a phone from Telecom. Otherwise, as previously described, a length of Cat5 and a Master Jack from any electrical supplier will do the job! | colinba (4266) | ||
| 161045 | 2003-07-20 08:21:00 | Hi Thanks for all the help so far, I probably should tell you exactly what the jack looks like: there is a small grey cable coming into the wall with 4 wires inside it, their colours are red, white, blue green. They are screwed onto a mounting plate with a screw for each wire, the phone connects the same way but on a different mounting plate but the wires are the same colours. Hope this narrows down the possibilties. |
pleasehelp (882) | ||
| 161046 | 2003-07-20 08:34:00 | best thing here is simply install a new phone jack. who does it is up to you. correct me if i'm wrong but the Telecom "Demarcation" point is the white box outside where the incomeing lines come in. this is telecom owned and is ment to be onlt touched by telecom (so i've been told). |
tweak'e (174) | ||
| 161047 | 2003-07-20 08:49:00 | I am a Telecommunications Technician with my beginnings in the old NZPO. Firstly, what you have accurately described is what was known as a NEO block. Especially if it opens like a little book with the former NZPO logo on it. Not to worry it is merely a connection point. Secondly the true definition of the Telecom Demarcation point is the point where Telecom says to you, sorry the rest of the circuit is your problem to fix and they decide where that point is themselves! Thirdly here is what you need to get. A master jack (at least one) or a 2 wire jack. Either will do, but not both. If you use a two wire jack, you can use another two wire jack for the extension, which of course will be your modem. If you use a master jack then the second jack must be a secondary jack. The difference between the master and secondary is the capacitor the master has. In your existing "Neo" block, the two wires you are concerned about should be the red and white wires. Run a cable from the Neo to the new location and connect it to red and white wires of the Neo block. Connect the other end to the center terminals of the jack point. There are three connectors on each strip, you want to use the centre ones. Here is a tip for anyone who reads this, if you do not have a connection tool, ie a Krone connecting tool here is a free tip. Do not use a screwdriver, you will only wreck the terminals permanently! Instead, place the wire over the connector (unstripped - leave the insulation on) and use the edge of a credit card to push the wire. This will mangle the credit card a little bit but it will not damage the connectors. So pick a part of the card that wont matter or better still, use someone elses!. I will watch this topic for a least an hour if anyone wants more info. | sinndisco (4059) | ||
| 161048 | 2003-07-20 08:53:00 | I am a Telecommunications Technician with my beginnings in the old NZPO. Firstly, what you have accurately described is what was known as a NEO block. Especially if it opens like a little book with the former NZPO logo on it. Not to worry it is merely a connection point. Secondly the true definition of the Telecom Demarcation point is the point where Telecom says to you, sorry the rest of the circuit is your problem to fix and they decide where that point is themselves! Thirdly here is what you need to get. A master jack (at least one) or a 2 wire jack. Either will do, but not both. If you use a two wire jack, you can use another two wire jack for the extension, which of course will be your modem. If you use a master jack then the second jack must be a secondary jack. The difference between the master and secondary is the capacitor the master has. In your existing "Neo" block, the two wires you are concerned about should be the red and white wires. Run a cable from the Neo to the new location and connect it to red and white wires of the Neo block. Connect the other end to the center terminals of the jack point. There are three connectors on each strip, you want to use the center ones. Here is a tip for anyone who reads this, if you do not have a connection tool, ie a Krone connecting tool here is free advice. Do not use a screwdriver, you will only wreck the terminals permanently! Instead, place the wire over the connector (unstripped - leave the insulation on) and use the edge of a credit card to push the wire home. This will mangle the credit card a little bit but it will not damage the connectors. So pick a part of the card that wont matter or better still, use someone elses!. I will watch this topic for a least an hour if anyone wants more info. | sinndisco (4059) | ||
| 161049 | 2003-07-20 08:55:00 | oops, sorry about the double entry, stuffed up doing the spell check | sinndisco (4059) | ||
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