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| Thread ID: 35737 | 2003-07-20 06:19:00 | OT: Bursary | caffy (2665) | Press F1 |
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| 161474 | 2003-07-20 06:19:00 | Hi, I was hoping that a teacher, or someone else in education, or students themselves would be able to answer my query . It's about getting A Bursary - they say you need to accumulate 300 or more marks from your best 5 subjects (i . e the 6th subject (if you are taking 6 subjects) with the lowest mark is not counted) . Where do you accumulate the 300 marks from? the exams's percentages, or from the raw marks of each subject? I . e . if you wanted to get A Bursary, and you take 5 subjects, you would need to get at least 60% in each subject to guarantee getting the A Bursary, am I right? (300 divided by 5 subjects = 60%) cheers, caffy |
caffy (2665) | ||
| 161475 | 2003-07-20 06:33:00 | yes thats right. the percentages of each of the 5 papers added up. its the end mark percentage u get after ANY counting which is done. the mark that is on your transcript at the end. N. |
nomad (3693) | ||
| 161476 | 2003-07-20 08:55:00 | *sigh* just feel lucky that you don't have to do NCEA (opps i just said the forbidden word, oh well) :'( - David |
DangerousDave (697) | ||
| 161477 | 2003-07-20 09:04:00 | I also think NCEA isn't that great . I mean, I read that it is easy to fail one component of a subject, i . e . in maths if you are drawing up a graph, and do everything correctly, but fail to label the graph, you've failed that component . And didn't I read in the newspaper recently, that only 40% of English students could write an proper essay? Mind you, that might be because the standard of written english these days seem to be dropping . . . On the other hand, however - exams could be criticised for not fully testing the students ability . It could be seen as a exam to test how well students can cram the night/two nights before the exam? I think Sixth Form Certificate is more balanced than Bursary and School Certificate, because you have assessments, and exams, which i think evens out your marks . With Bursary and School Cert, if i remember correctly, more than half of your final mark is from the exams - what if you are a student who does better at assignments than exams? |
caffy (2665) | ||
| 161478 | 2003-07-20 11:15:00 | Depending on the school you attend, and the level of education you are at, some (including myself, most likely) will be able to sit the alternative International Cambridge Examinations instead of the local Bursary/NCEA/School Certificate thing. Personally, I perfer these international ones, despite it been an "one-off" assessment, i.e. Just one/two papers at the end of year to site. With these ones, it is not a matter of getting how many right, it is more ranking from top to bottom. The top 5% or so will get A*, then .... If you get a A, you get x amounts of points. You add up how many point you have in total, then use that to get into uni. The structure is like this: International General Certificate of Secondary Education (IGCSE)-5th AS Levels (Collects half as much point as A Levels for Uni)-6th/7th A Levels (Collect twice as much point as AS Levels for Uni) -7th/advance Technically, if doing 5 subjects, you could get into university if you achieve C in all of them, in 6th form. Crazy it sounds.. but not. *Correct me if I'm wrong, hasnt officially been released by AKL Uni, but.. that approximately. See here (www.ucas.com) |
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| 161479 | 2003-07-20 21:16:00 | hiya again, Caffy - I recently did a chemistry practical to work out the concentration of an acid . . . I was . 04ml out of the true concentration, one of the most accurate in the school . And i got merit . . . why, because i didn't round to 3 significant places . . . people who were out by . 5ml would getting excellence . This has happened to me many times before, where i would get in the high ninties and only get merit, even achieved . To me it has got to the stage where i want to leave school because of the stupid system, i mean it isn't aimed towards high achievers, rather people who get lower marks . I mean hell, i read lately that people got credits for picking up rubish . . . you can warp the system to pass . Entire subjects (my computer studies class for example) are based on where you can only pass or fail each standard . So you either get achieved or not achieved, so you could get 90% or 50% and still get achieved . GARGH i really really hate it . Sy - I've been talking to some people and they said that Cambridge isn't as accepted as it used to be as there are so many people taking it now or something . The universities don't seem to happy about it . Anyways to get into university at the end of 6th form i have to get a grade average of 65 (so much for achievement marks, stupid system, i mean they're working out a mark which is based on achievied, merit, or excellence, which technically isn't a mark . ) And that is only achieved with a couple of merits . It isn't difficult really, the difficult courses to get into, which you can't get into at the end of 6th form are med and engineering . Well in ncea you can get into law with a GA of 75 at end of 6th form (exact merit average) - David |
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| 161480 | 2003-07-20 22:42:00 | perhaps my prior posting is inaccurate. i did 7th form in 1996 u see .;) | nomad (3693) | ||
| 161481 | 2003-07-21 09:47:00 | I am not trying to create a political argument, but . . . Really, to be honest, I really wished I could have a one on one interview with some of the people running our society . What is the lady doing increasing all the rates, what is the government up to with all these abnormal *for most anyway* issues about marriage and things . They are just basically creating awareness of homosexuality . How about spending these time on shaping a better future for teenagers? Are we going to moan for the rest of our lifetime about benefits, afterall, they better get off their backside and get some work, *sorry to some umemployed, fortunately you probably are just unable to find work, I'm referring to those people who lie to stay on benefits* It is the taxpayer money you're taking . . . HELLO? So far, very disappointed with how the country is moving along, are we going to try harder? Dave- yes, I'm well aware that there maybe alot of people doing Cambridge, but, thats the way it goes if this country can't be bothered to look into something that will suit everyone . That's why so many people are leaving, some not even to get work experience, they're leaving 'cos they're sick and tired of this nonsense . Enough said, let's work harder, *Sorry if I've offended anyone, I don't mean it, this is just my point of view* |
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| 161482 | 2003-07-21 10:05:00 | > Enough said, let's work harder, Yes!! I don't think there's enough support, motivation that can be given to all teenagers . Work experience is a good thing for some people - school doesn't suit everyone and i've got some friends who left school and have gone onto jobs that they are satisfied, comfortable with . They learn at their own pace, whereas at school, teachers expect everyone to be at the same pace, which i think is not fair . > *Sorry if I've offended anyone, I don't mean it, this > is just my point of view* None taken at all, everyone's entitled to their opinions . I'm sick of school too . Don't know why, its probably just from all the high expectations that teachers impose on us, when it's nearly impossible to complete everything on time and all that stuff . I dont know what I'm saying, I'm just rambling on and on :) *looks forward to the end of november, when school will finally be over, for good* *doesn't look forward to all the work that will be done, between now and november :(* |
caffy (2665) | ||
| 161483 | 2003-07-21 10:30:00 | Um . . . well I do like most of the expectations, I see them as more of a goal to reach . Everybody has their own potentials, after all, teachers can't help you any more but to do what they can . Over my years of schooling, I have met with some of the best teachers, *as well as the odd unlikable ones* . After all, these facts and opinions can be debatable . I believe in reaching for full potential, some point where it is never possible to reach ;-) At the same time, social life skills should be gained . At the moment, I think school is a bit too much for the typical above average teenager . For example, I did not have a clue what I was on about till few weeks before the exam . So I worked hard, decided to get my acts together, and managed to study 2 weeks worth of notes in less than a week, some the night before . What a waste of time during the two terms . After all, its the keypoints we're wanting, no more . Yet, I still came well within the top 5% of the school? *I'm a genius? Doubt it, hoped all my life* I can finish multiple exercises of mathematics in a hour at home, yet, I get few questions done during the same time frame in class, I wonder why . . . Our discipline up to standard? *And NO! I'm not a teachers "pet"* Just hope I can send a letter to the cabinet ministers, that'll wake them up . I will remember to include my age at the bottom . . . will definitely surprise the da* thing out of their heads :p |
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