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Thread ID: 35818 2003-07-22 09:48:00 How do you make frames dissapear on a webpage? mejobloggs (264) Press F1
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162031 2003-07-22 09:48:00 Im trying to make a frames page split into a top bit, a left bit, and a main - bottom right bit.

I am trying to get it to validate as XHTML.

The only ways i can do it is by:
<frameset cols="155,*" border="0" frameborder="0" framespacing="0">

using those three things.

But when I use the validator at www.w3.org, not of those validate as XHTML.

Is there another way of getting rid of the frames?

I thought maybe CSS or something, but I cant work it out. 		mejobloggs (264)
162032 2003-07-22 10:02:00 try this:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Frameset//EN" "www.w3.org
<html xmlns="www.w3.org
<head>
<title>Untitled Document</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
</head>

<frameset cols="80,*" frameborder="no" border="0" framespacing="0">
<frame src="file:///C|/My%20Documents/My%20Webs/UntitledFrame-2" name="leftFrame" scrolling="No" noresize="noresize" id="leftFrame" />
<frame src="file:///C|/My%20Documents/My%20Webs/Untitled-2" name="mainFrame" id="mainFrame" />
</frameset>
<noframes><body>
</body></noframes>
</html>

let me know how you get on :) 		stu140103 (137)
162033 2003-07-22 10:17:00 Are you trying to change how the frames are displayed or get rid of them altogether? -=JM=- (16)
162034 2003-07-23 05:43:00 Just make it so you cant see them. None of that stuff validates as xhtml (the border, frameborder and framespacing). mejobloggs (264)
162035 2003-07-23 05:48:00 > Just make it so you cant see them. None of that stuff
> validates as xhtml (the border, frameborder and
> framespacing).

did you try my suggestion above???? 		stu140103 (137)
162036 2003-07-23 06:55:00 Yes, but None of that stuff validates as xhtml (the border, frameborder and framespacing). mejobloggs (264)
162037 2003-07-23 08:01:00 I've had trouble with that as well mejobloggs. I tried to get it to work by using the guides at W3 Schools (http://www.w3schools.com). Gave up in the end and threw in some code which would work, even if it didn't validate. -=JM=- (16)
162038 2003-07-23 11:19:00 yup. Same here. I seems rather odd to have a new version of HTML, not support that. Are they trying to kill of the frames with xhtml?

I am pretty sure you cant do it in css either.

Can you email W3 about problems like this, or will they just not bother? 		mejobloggs (264)
162039 2003-07-23 11:29:00 The problem occurs when browser coders have a differing idea of the standards to what w3c has. Then there is w3schools with false information as well.

It can be hard at times.. and yeah, frames aren't the best IMO. 		-=JM=- (16)
162040 2003-07-24 01:38:00 You can replace frames using CSS, but there are no browsers available which support the CSS code that will do it! So, you could get you code to validate, but no browser would show it correctly.

Alternatively you can use frames as you are and get browsers to view it correctly, but as you have found out, it won't validate. you could try following this (www.w3.org) to the letter, it may work.

G P 		Graham Petrie (449)
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