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Thread ID: 36188	2003-08-02 10:21:00	hard drive memory loss	hairy pigmy (4355)	Press F1

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164727	2003-08-02 10:21:00	I have been having difficulty saving image files. Error message reports not enough memory available. I have delete some files but the display in "Windows Explorer" and in "DriveSpace" properties shows no appreciable gain in available space, in fact sometimes a loss. My operating system is Windows 95.	hairy pigmy (4355)
164728	2003-08-02 10:34:00	Have you emptied your recycle bin? Are you sure the message isn't referring to a lack of RAM not hard disk space?	JohnD (509)
164729	2003-08-02 10:35:00	Hi Tony Double-click My Computer and right-click your C drive. Post details of the Disk size and your spare disk space so we can see what is going on. Also, provide as much info about your computer as you can and give us an idea of the files size of the graphics you are trying to save. On a W95 computer your HDD could be as small as 1GB and that fills up real quick if saving graphics files. You could also be short on RAM and that can inhibit some save actions. Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
164730	2003-08-02 10:36:00	I'm with JohnD on this. "Not enough memory" is not referring to HDD space, but RAM. Hard drive space and memory are two separate things.	godfather (25)
164731	2003-08-03 01:10:00	I agree GF, but a W95 box is likely to be very short on HDD room as well as RAM, and solving the latter alone could simply highlight other problems with swapfile size etc . Inadequate RAM might cause a slow operation, but surely the swapfile will take up the slack provided it is adequately resourced? I did much the same work on a 486 DX2-66 with 8MB RAM as I currently do on the W98 box and although painfully slow it still managed to save the files . My could W98 box has 256MB RAM, a 20GB C: drive and 4 . 7 GB D: drive for data with heaps of spare space . I sometimes get insufficient memory messages when transferring and saving larger graphics files after scanning (nothing else ever causes it) and SuperMonitor usually shows adequate spare RAM . I'm interested in any alternative possibilities though . Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
164732	2003-08-03 11:16:00	Hi On opening bitmap files (size of 25MB), the actual message I got was "Not enough memory to store data for "Undo" operation . Free more memory by closing some applications . If you press "OK" Undo will be disabled . " After clicking "OK" the file opened alright but when saving as a JPG file, only part or none of the image was saved . I have since run a small program called "Eraser" to erase unused space . This appears to have helped and when I delete files now the available space does increase . My hard disk is partitioned into four: C (2 . 16GB), D (1 . 56GB), E (0 . 75GB), F(1 . 13GB) . Free space on my C partition was 69 . 7MB and I didn't seem to be able to free up more, but now I can . I think there are still some problems though . I am running a program called Cacheman . Here is a system report which it generates . --- Operating System --- Windows 95 --- CPU --- Vendor: Intel Pentium II Speed: 266 MHz --- Display adapter --- 3dfx Voodoo3 (1024 x 768 - 24 bit) --- Physical memory --- Total: 128 MBytes Usage: 65 . 7 MBytes Free: 61 . 8 MBytes Lowest usage: 65 . 5 MBytes Highest usage: 90 . 3 MBytes --- Paging file --- Total: 118 MBytes Usage: 36 . 3 MBytes Lowest Usage: 36 . 2 MBytes Highest Usage: 62 . 8 MBytes --- 16Bit Resources --- User: 82 % GDI: 84 % --- Disk Cache --- Size: 32 . 0 MBytes Pages: n/a K Lowest size: 32 . 0 MBytes Highest size: 32 . 0 MBytes Minimal: 4 . 0 MBytes Maximal: 32 . 0 MBytes --- Name & Path Cache --- Preset: Desktop Name Cache: 677 Path Cache: 32 --- CDFS Cache --- Size: 1238 KBytes Read-Ahead optimized for: 4x --- Icon Cache --- Icons: 512 --- RAM settings --- Recovery enabled: yes Try to recover every: 60 minutes, if mem below: 20 MBytes Memory amount: automatic Do not recover on high CPU usage . Do not recover on high disk activity . Do not recover on startup . Extreme recovery mode off . Unload DLLs from memory: on Conservative swap file usage: off 512 MB memory limit: off --- Tweaks --- VFAT contiguous allocation size: 512 KBytes Read-Ahead threshold: 0 KBytes IO page buffers: 4 KBytes Hung app timeout: 3 sec Wait to kill app timeout: 10 sec Show menu delay: 100 msec ----------------------------------- Thanks for anwering my query so rapidly and I will let you know if I have more trouble . Thanks Hairy Pigmy	hairy pigmy (4355)
164733	2003-08-03 11:31:00	I agree Billy T and a defrag wouldn't do any harm either.	mikebartnz (21)
164734	2003-08-03 13:03:00	The C: partition needs to be a lot bigger than 70Mb free. Ideally if the swapfile is on that drive, you should always leave about 200Mb or so free on the C: partition. So find partition magic, make one of your other partitions smaller and then increase the size of your C: partiton.	PoWa (203)
164735	2003-08-03 22:38:00	Cutting to the chase, the short answer is: get a bigger hard drive or remove the dross from your C: partition . Use the facilities in IE to delete all temporary internet files and content stored off line, dump all your cookies, go to DOS and delete every instance you can find of Index . dat (there wil be several), seek and delete all temp files . That cleared 130MB of space for me after just one month of casual (business) surfing . If you are storing data on your C: partition, move it to another or dedicate your D: partition to a 200MB swap file and use the rest for data storage . Four partitions is too many for such a small drive anyway and given the age of the drive, storing your data on a new drive might be a wise idea . A 20GB drive can be bought for next to nothing now . I assume that your budget is tight, otherwise you would have upgraded your system by now but even so, you could probably buy a second hand P111 550 or similar with W98 installed for not much more than the cost of a larger HDD . Transfer your RAM and the 4GB HDD and things will start to hum . Provided you are patient you don't need a top of the line, swept up, bells 'n whistles computer to work with graphics files and I do most of my work on a W98 P166 with 256MB RAM and 20 & 4 . 7GB HDDs without striking many holdups, though the old girl is being phased out now . Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
164736	2003-08-24 10:33:00	Thanks for the help and advice. My computer is working much better. Yes I am on a tight budget, and am not able to upgrade, although if a second hand computer is as cheap as you say, maybe that's a possibility. I am keeping my eyes open for a good deal. In the a time I have been removing programs I haven't used for a while to free up more space. Some of them I was only trying out. Not having a big budget I tend to download a lot of freeware to try out. I didn't know that I shouldn't have four partitions. I am moving files around and will try to get it back to two. Thanks again, hairy pigmy	hairy pigmy (4355)
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