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Thread ID: 36452	2003-08-10 12:59:00	TV on your PC .. worth it?	Hawk (4365)	Press F1

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166653	2003-08-11 05:36:00	Q.Does that mean that you can record programs to your hard drive like you would to a video recorder? A.Hell yes then you can edit it or burn it to cd, even better than a video recorder. __________________________________________________ ______ Q.Teletext and subtitles/captioning? If answer to that question is yes, can the subtitles be recorded to the hard drive as well? A. i would say what you see is what you will record.	BootyLicious (526)
166654	2003-08-11 05:45:00	Thanks for those answers Booty, it sounds good. The reason I am asking about being able to record the captions onto the hard drive is because you can't do it with a video recorder, so it is not "what you see is what you get" with that, unfortunately. There are video recorders available (overseas?) that can do it but at a price no doubt.	Fire-and-Ice (3910)
166655	2003-08-11 06:35:00	Yeah, you're right there Fire-and-Ice. We have a Grundig VCR, im not sure what model it is, but it can copy subtitles. This had to be brought in from Germany, through a local shop, since none of the other makers (at that time anyway) made VCR's that can record subtitles. THe problem with it was that recently a part broke in it, and it was an expensive part! So my dad reasoned "we'll buy a newer model, this one's gettin a bit old" so he asked the same shop (i think) to import another grundig model. Bad news - they don't make models that can record subtitles anymore :( So my dad ended up buying a new expensive part. When i can afford to, I will probably get a TV card put into my PC, and just record programs onto cd or harddrive. Would probably be cheaper option than looking for/buying a hard-to-find VCR that can copy subtitles. I know that Australia and America do have those VCRs that are capable of taping subtitles, but the way they do it is diferent. Like, i think within the VCR is a decoder that automatically turns on the captions etc... not like here where you have to press '801' on teletext, manually... So not sure if it would work here? Like, almost all Videos that you buy, will have the captions decoder on it, and if you put it into a VCR with the decoder in it, it will turn captions on automatically... Having said that, my information is a bit vague, so can someone correct me if my above information is wrong - particularly the ones about Australian/American VCR's. Cheers, caffy	caffy (2665)
166656	2003-08-11 07:05:00	Don't hold your breath re TV cards recording the teletext info, mine certainly does not. You need to try before you buy in that area, perhaps the new ones do, but I am in doubt (the chipset is unlikely to have changed). Its a whole different thing to recording the video and audio, as teletext signals are carried in the part of the signal that would normally get stripped off.	godfather (25)
166657	2003-08-11 09:31:00	Thank you for confirming that Godfather. I understand that captions can be viewed while playing DVDs on the computer (as on a stand alone DVD player) but DVDs converted to a compressed format apparently lose the captioning, which is why I suspected that recording TV with captions would not work. Like you say, the signals are separate but I was unsure if a computer/TV card would be more clever than a video recorder and be able to capture them.	Fire-and-Ice (3910)
166658	2003-08-11 10:25:00	The software for teletext decoding seems to be totally separate to the TV display software. Using teletext functions on a PC card is (as far as I know) an entirely separate process, so thats a prime reason why it wont record the teletext. On my older Flyvideo 98 card the XP driver software is not too good for teletext, so I dont bother (have a widescreen TV nearby with teletext, nicam, sattelite sky etc so dont need it)	godfather (25)
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