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| Thread ID: 128542 | 2012-12-27 06:10:00 | Viny, - Distorted sound | The Error Guy (14052) | PC World Chat |
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| 1320337 | 2012-12-27 06:10:00 | So my girlfriend got my a copy of Muse's 2006 album Black Holes and Revelations for Christmas (best present ever!) however the sound is not sounding right, it seems distorted. Not your normal hiss/crackles distorted, something worse. It could be of course due to the fact that our player is certainly not a high end unit and isn't able to handle the fidelity/response being output by this newer model LP (not sure here since this is the first post 60's recording I have used) or some other technical limitation (bass, poor amplification etc) . It could also be that I'm rather well versed in how this particular album sounds in digital and I'm "hearing" the difference. I'm hoping that it is a technical limitation or a worn stylus rather than a bad record. It would be awkward for her to return it to the shop (or me to say you record is bad!) I know she paid a large amount for it, probably too much to a store owner in the Wairarapa. I'm guessing around $80, he said it was as new so it's not a $10 2nd hand job (where I'd be happy to enjoy the thought that went into getting the present) since I'd feel a bit ripped off on her part for spending a lot on a faulty recording. Anyway, I'll try cleaning the record + stylus as well as taking a direct audio sample from the player and see if that helps as well as recording a sample for you to analyse and see if you can direct me as to where I'm going wrong (if it is me). I have access to a friends Audiophile type dad who's sure to set me straight if I can't sort it out myself. He's got some drop dead gorgeous equipment :drool: Thanks, and I hope you all enjoyed Christmas |
The Error Guy (14052) | ||
| 1320338 | 2012-12-27 07:10:00 | Vinyl and distortion are the very best of friends - together since birth. The noise is all part of the sonic picture. Every time it is played it gets a little worse, but if you can get some glowing emitter amplifiers you can round out the experience and pour scorn on those poor uneducated lost souls suffering with the new-fangled rubbish. Of course suitably extravagant speaker leads are essential, but make sure they are not hooked up backwards. ;) | R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 1320339 | 2012-12-27 07:17:00 | Update - Managed to sort the distortion (I hope) , cleaned stylus + cartridge contacts as well as re balancing the tone arm. No need to fine tune the bias or anti skate... there is none on this unit :p I have it hooked up to my surround speakers but there is still a lack of bass, I think that's the main problem. Either the turntable's phono amp doesn't have a very good (or any) low freq amps or that's just how the recording is. Might be that it doesn't support it because the right channel is pretty weak. Anyway, I didn't have much time but I jerry rigged a bit of a recording together with 3x samples from 2x parts of Side A's 1st track (Take a Bow) - The sample's are in the same order for each part but I changed some stuff for each one. Out of interest which on do you think sounds best (no I didn't tune the RPM up or down :p ) The samples are pretty short so if you want some longer ones I can do them. |
The Error Guy (14052) | ||
| 1320340 | 2012-12-27 07:23:00 | and there was me thinking viny must be some sort of new rubbish file format like MP3 for it to be sounding that bad | gary67 (56) | ||
| 1320341 | 2012-12-27 08:51:00 | Does the turntable have a ceramic cartridge or a magnetic one. If magnetic you need an amp with a preamp in to boost the turntables signal. :) |
Trev (427) | ||
| 1320342 | 2012-12-27 09:06:00 | there is still a lack of bass ... or that's just how the recording is.. www.kvraudio.com |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 1320343 | 2012-12-27 09:48:00 | I'm not sure about the cartridge, the unit I'm using now is a suitably tacky replica unit, with no good quality parts to be seen (or at least, that's what I believe). I want to get a decent turntable, amp and speaker set of my own but that costs money and students don't have money :D I'm guessing ceramic though Because I'm dumb and forgot to put them up before, here are the test samples - soundcloud.com although I have decided that the 1st one is the best listening IMO. Still a little scratchy though but that's vinyl without any filtering! |
The Error Guy (14052) | ||
| 1320344 | 2012-12-27 10:46:00 | Whatever your playing that on is a piece of ****. There is so much background noise, it isn't funny, and i'm not talking about pops and clicks, just down right rumble and noise which shouldn't be there at all. Here's some samples of how good it can sound on a decent deck (mine's a 30 or so year old Technics Direct Drive SL-D33) Sample 1 (newer stuff) (soundcloud.com) Sample 2 (Older Stuff) (soundcloud.com) |
goodiesguy (15316) | ||
| 1320345 | 2012-12-27 11:03:00 | It could be that the amplifier lacks a RIAA playback pre-amp. When vinyl records are recorded the bass is largely attenuated. Read more at en.wikipedia.org So the pre-amp amplifies the bass more than the treble (see the graph). This is more obvious with magnetic pick pups than than the cheaper ceramic pick ups used in the record player (tone) arm. |
Frank_sumbody (16923) | ||
| 1320346 | 2012-12-27 11:15:00 | It sounds like he has a ceramic pick up. | goodiesguy (15316) | ||
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