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168806 2003-08-20 00:49:00 I have allways been in to experimenting with software, & frequently messed up the system, which prevented me from doing any productive work.
The answer, a removable hard disk drawer, one with an old hard drive for playing with, and another for work.
Just change the drawers over & away you go :)
If you leave the Bios on Auto you dont have to alter any settings.
Set jumbers to master/without slave.
Mzee (158)
168807 2003-08-20 02:03:00 cheaper to do a compressed image of your C: drive onto another partition or CDR etc then you can experiment all you like takes 10 mins to reinstall O/S as it was .
I use DRive Image 2002 on 98 SE
kiwibeat (304)
168808 2003-08-20 10:34:00 I was cruising the hardware section of Computing.net and found posts from Valhalla who is now running without an internal harddrivde but using two "harddrive sockets" and three removable harddrives. He/she seems rapt with the performance. Martina (4232)
168809 2003-08-20 10:54:00 I have run for ages with 2 removeable HDD in the main PC, and a secondary removeable on the second PC.

Given the low prices of HDD, its a cheap way of getting secure backups easily.

I have 4 spare HDD that I change out, keeping the most recent in a fire-rated safe (business records)
godfather (25)
168810 2003-08-20 12:49:00 How do you get removable hard drives or set it up?? Are they normal hard drives or a special type?

Do you have to make a hole in the front of your pc case so you can pull the thing out quickly??
PoWa (203)
168811 2003-08-20 13:06:00 Hi PoWa,
We have a removable drive too. It came from DSE.
Our computer is PC Company one that has a door at the top & you use a key to remove & replace drives. The plan there is that each member of our household will have their own drive.
We have a CD writer as well as a CD drive. The other half thought that the writer might wear out so it is only used for writing & the other one is for games & stuff like that.

Pauline.
Pauline (641)
168812 2003-08-20 13:17:00 PoWa: This (www.dse.co.nz) is the type of removable drive that can be used. It fits into existing free bays. Jen C (20)
168813 2003-08-20 15:15:00 Well I'm kinda enlightened over them now. Thanks people :)

A few questions though:

Lets say I have a new hard drive right (120Gb Seagate, 8mb cache, ATA100). Will it work well in that thing - it looks like it only supports EIDE DMA/66 and mines like DMA100 right?

Also how does the hard drive actually connect to the removable tray thing and the motherboard?? Is there a cable running from the tray to the motherboard. And then how does the hard drive connect into the tray?

How long does it take to get the thing in an out?
PoWa (203)
168814 2003-08-20 23:33:00 > Lets say I have a new hard drive right (120Gb
> Seagate, 8mb cache, ATA100). Will it work well in
> that thing - it looks like it only supports EIDE
> DMA/66 and mines like DMA100 right?

Mine supports ATA/100. Similar, but not quite the same as the one in the link

> Also how does the hard drive actually connect to the
> removable tray thing and the motherboard?? Is there a
> cable running from the tray to the motherboard. And
> then how does the hard drive connect into the tray?

The fixed portion (the casing) of the drive housing has a normal 80 pin IDE socket and a normal power connectot. Nothing is different to the normal HDD connectors. No modifications are needed to any wiring. Its plug and play.
The removeable tray has a special plug with a matching socket on the tray casing. When you slide it in, it connects automatically.

The tray accommodates any standard 3.5" HDD.

> How long does it take to get the thing in an out?

5 seconds.
However you cannot do it live. Windows will get very upset.
So add a shutdown and restart to those times.
godfather (25)
168815 2003-08-21 01:51:00 Ahh now I understand, thanks Godfather :) Where did you buy your ata100 one from? Sounds like a cool idea really. PoWa (203)
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