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| Thread ID: 36967 | 2003-08-25 00:23:00 | Telecom's new ADSL plans | juha (761) | Press F1 |
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| 170223 | 2003-08-25 00:23:00 | What do people think of Telecom's new ADSL plans? (www.telecom-media.co.nz) Now you've got a choice of: * Low speed and low data caps or * High speed and low data caps That's what happens when you eliminate telco/ISP competition. -- Juha |
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| 170224 | 2003-08-25 00:41:00 | You are a wee bit slow :) see hereJetStream news (pressf1.pcworld.co.nz) | stu140103 (137) | ||
| 170225 | 2003-08-25 00:47:00 | > What do people think of Telecom's > new ADSL plans? (www.telecom-media.co.nz > ?id=2915&page=index) I think one word sum's it up quite nicely: *Dissappointed* > Now you've got a choice of: > > * Low speed and low data caps > > or > > * High speed and low data caps 500Megs is nothing, I can do 3x that in a week on Dial-Up, sharing the line with 8 people in the household who all want to use it to make calls. Im disgusted! > That's what happens when you eliminate telco/ISP > competition. I'd be keen to hear about Walker Wireless and their offering.. or if Cable will be a possibilty up in Auck's any time soon... |
Chilling_Silently (228) | ||
| 170226 | 2003-08-25 00:49:00 | Ahhh... missed that one. Thanks. | juha (761) | ||
| 170227 | 2003-08-25 01:07:00 | > I'd be keen to hear about Walker Wireless and their > offering.. or if Cable will be a possibilty up in > Auck's any time soon... Thing is though, Telecom's artificially high prices don't just hit end-users. Anyone wanting to send data across Telecom's networks (includes Xtra and Netgate or Global-Gateway etc) also has to pay through the nose. There is no incentive for anyone to offer a cheaper or better service. If they somehow manage to pull it off financially, Telecom will lower prices locally like it did with Saturn until the competition is starved off. Telecom knows that nobody can or will undercut its service, hence the two-finger salute to DSL customers. -- Juha |
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| 170228 | 2003-08-25 01:19:00 | What blows me away is how expensive it is in real terms... take this quote from this morning's Aardvark for their 500MB capped plan: "Now let's see -- at 256Kbps, you can download for just 5 hours before you hit that 500MB cap. The 500MB JetStream 256Kbps plan costs $39.95 plus whatever your ISP adds (in the case of Xtra, that's going to be either $34.95 or $20, we don't yet know for sure). However, even if we're charitable and assume the total cost for this plan is $59.95 ($39.95 + $20) then that works out at cost of $12 per hour when downloading large files or high-bitrate video streams. THIS IS CHEAP??? " Compare that to full speed access at a cyber cafe of between $2 -$5.00 per hour! And Aardvark's calculations don't even take into consideration the return packets that have to be sent for all the incoming packets |
Greg S (201) | ||
| 170229 | 2003-08-25 01:26:00 | They're a crock. If there was unlimited national it would be all good. Most people I know barely even touch their international traffic. I haven't seen any one that thinks the new plans are any good. I did hear that apparently JetStart was only meant to be an introduction to the fullpipe though. Never really happened the way they planned on it though. |
-=JM=- (16) | ||
| 170230 | 2003-08-25 01:30:00 | But for an extra $10-20 odd per month you can get FULL Jetstream with the same data caps... Im sure Telecom has some sort of underlying logic here, but I just cant see it! | Chilling_Silently (228) | ||
| 170231 | 2003-08-25 01:35:00 | It is worse than a joke, but the thing is nobody has to subscribe to the faster plan. If they had no one take up the "offer" what are they going to do about it? A massive boycott of the faster plan will force Telecom to revise, surely?? |
Fire-and-Ice (3910) | ||
| 170232 | 2003-08-25 01:37:00 | > What blows me away is how expensive it is in real > terms . . . take this quote from this morning's Aardvark > for their 500MB capped plan: > > "Now let's see -- at 256Kbps, you can download for > just 5 hours before you hit that 500MB cap . The 500MB > JetStream 256Kbps plan costs $39 . 95 plus whatever > your ISP adds (in the case of Xtra, that's going to > be either $34 . 95 or $20, we don't yet know for > sure) . > > However, even if we're charitable and assume the > total cost for this plan is $59 . 95 ($39 . 95 + $20) > then that works out at cost of $12 per hour when > downloading large files or high-bitrate video > streams . THIS IS CHEAP??? " > > Compare that to full speed access at a cyber cafe of > between $2 -$5 . 00 per hour! And Aardvark's > calculations don't even take into consideration the > return packets that have to be sent for all the > incoming packets Some people would say that at a Cybercafe, you split the bandwidth and thus cost between several users . However, Jetstream users are not provisioned anything more than 26 . 4Kbps each . What the figures tell you is that Telecom sees ADSL as a faster version of dial-up . They triple the speed, and the number of hours connected, as well as the data usage per month, and think that's somehow a representative measure of usage . Ridiculous . I don't know if Telecom understands what people want to use ADSL for or not -- I've certainly told Sandra Geange & Co a number of times what it can be used for . If they do, it's a cynical ploy to milk its government-protected monopoly . If they don't, that's just as bad because there's ultimately very little anyone can do about it . -- Juha |
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