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Thread ID: 128611 2013-01-03 00:50:00 weird phone calls Tony (4941) PC World Chat
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1321237 2013-01-03 04:10:00 I believe what he experienced was a miss from one of those scammers. I understand that their automatic dialler calls *6 numbers at a time and the scammer gets connected to the first of the *6 who answers. They probably got worried about their bad press so instead of a blind hang-up they programmed in a thoroughly pleasant and lovely "goodbye". (* Maybe the system calls 10 or 20 at once. My guess is half a dozen).
**For the younger forum members, 'half a dozen' means six. Ancient shopkeeper term, 'dozen' meant twelve.)
coldot (6847)
1321238 2013-01-03 04:21:00 That sounds very plausible. Tony (4941)
1321239 2013-01-03 04:45:00 Why do we consonantly have to take abuse from the telephone system?
Why cant people who decide not to have their private number shown on a caller ID be given a registration number it could something like 555,1732374609 (a total meaningless number.)

I point is if one gets bugged by endless amount of time wasting calls from where 555,1732374609 shows up on caller ID, you could ring telecom and they would know in seconds who the guilty party is, yet still keeping it private from you the complainant.
Frank_sumbody (16923)
1321240 2013-01-03 06:03:00 Why cant people who decide not to have their private number shown on a caller ID be given a registration number it could something like 555,1732374609 (a total meaningless number.)

Unfortunately, the days where all calls came through the PSTN and "A party" numbers couldn't be spoofed are gone.

Now even the telcos can't be sure where the call has come from.
decibel (11645)
1321241 2013-01-06 07:10:00 Unfortunately, the days where all calls came through the PSTN and "A party" numbers couldn't be spoofed are gone.

Now even the telcos can't be sure where the call has come from.

There most be a point of time where a call enters into the traceable "telecom" network either from a private individual such as most of us that can be identified or via a public switched telephone network (PSTN) even so, once someone makes a step to make the telephone system less unabusive it takes one closer step in making a better world. And if the "registration number" (as I called it) turns out to come from a PSTN entry, at least it narrows the calls from somewhere.

I have a rough idea what you are trying to say, My mother is in a retirement home, she moved rooms so her old phone number was no longer valid, I rang up fault service from the new room hoping they could give me the new number, it was a waste of time, in the end I think they had to rewire the link to change the wire from the other room to the new room. In my days when I worked in the post office it was called PBX short for (Private branch exchange)

In fact the whole experience was quite weird, when she left the old room I forget the old number thinking I would not have to use it again, and when mother got the old number back about a week or two latter had to relearn the number.
Frank_sumbody (16923)
1321242 2013-01-06 07:40:00 Don't buy into movie BS, call traces don't happen from a laptop and need a call to exist for some magic amount of time to find the source. For billing purposes every chargeable call is logged and recorded in the system and details can be retrieved for quite some time afterwards. It might take a court order but if you know the time and date and the receiving number it should absolutely be possible to find out where it came from. Inernational calls require cooperation from overseas telcos but it's still possible.

VOIP probably adds a bit of a problem and it might be possible to hide behind a fake IP but regular calls are easily traced. In my days as a trainee however we had to physically trace calls through the electromechanical exchanges and we had to be quick to catch it, 111 call traces would come in via a special phone line and it was "drop everything and trace this call". You could physically hold a call up to a degree but if the originating party hung up it might be impossible.

I've never been sure if call tracing in the movies is shown the way it is for dramatic effect or someone out there want's to deliberately mislead criminals into thinking as long as they are quick it's safe to use the phone. If a phone line is being monitored for malicious calls the will all be logged and recorded no matter how short.
dugimodo (138)
1321243 2013-01-06 08:04:00 (read above)

Yes I done a few call traces myself mostly from faults, there was a time when a lady kept getting **** *** **** messages and the bells in the exchange went every time her phone went, and the call was traced. You are right about the movies.

They say all those exchange equipment was sent to Japan? they heated it up and took off some types of metal then heated up a bit more and collected a different metal then heated it up more and .................. part of your car body might be made by part of recycled telephone exchange, however they might of run out by now.
Frank_sumbody (16923)
1321244 2013-01-06 08:55:00 ...International calls require cooperation from overseas telcos but it's still possible...

This is the problem and it is also the problem with eliminating email spam.
decibel (11645)
1321245 2013-01-06 09:12:00 This is what I mean by international cooperation - or lack of it.

www.msnbc.msn.com
decibel (11645)
1321246 2013-01-08 18:13:00 We have these robotic "goodbye" phone calls probably once or twice a week. Really weird and annoying. sahilcc7 (15483)
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