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Thread ID: 37294 2003-09-03 07:42:00 Partitioning Chao is back (634) Press F1
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172722 2003-09-03 10:26:00 For a brand new drive and a fresh install Win XP will partition it for you quite beautifully so there is no need for third party utilities .

You say you have already installed Win XP - do you mean on this new hard drive? If you installed Win XP on it then you would have had the option to partition it when installing XP .

I don't think that you can add more partitions to your drive now that you have just the one partition with Win XP already installed on it, if that is what you have done, so if you want to avoid spending big $$ on Partition Magic you may as well go back and start from the beginning with a fresh install of Win XP and doing the partitioning when you get the option to do so . Remember though, that you could/will lose all your data on your hard drive .
Susan B (19)
172723 2003-09-03 10:40:00 When during the installation does it ask you?

Does it make a difference if I have the Windows XP Pro Update CD rather than the normal one.

I found a way to boot using Update CD so fresh install is not a problem, so am i right in assuming that I will still be able to partition with my Update CD?
Chao is back (634)
172724 2003-09-03 11:18:00 I have no idea about update CDs, sorry, but if you can do a fresh install then you should be fine. I also cannot remember exactly when it asks you but it is sometime early in the piece when it detects the size of your hard drive and mentions something about formatting as well, long before Windows is actually installed.

Sorry I can't be more specific but a search on Google will probably give you the information, or wait until someone with a better memory comes along. :-)

I do know that it is easy, because I did it without any problems. ;-)
Susan B (19)
172725 2003-09-03 11:51:00 I have not installed XP but presume the process is similar to 2K? Near the start of the install it will detect the drives and any existing partitions. YOu can delete partitions if they exist and create new ones. I think the only thing you cannot do is re-size existing partitions - you need something like Partition Magic to do that. JohnD (509)
172726 2003-09-03 12:04:00 Yes just wipe the new drive clean, and start again. Make the XP partition about 3Gigs. Then once you're into windows, right click on My Computer, select Manage, then select Disk Management. You can create more partitions in there.

I would make a separate partition for your programs, another for storage etc, and maybe one for swap file.
DMcKenzie (4203)
172727 2003-09-03 12:11:00 I agree with Tweak'e, Partition Magic (In all its useful-ness and glory) does cost, but I can safely say that its worth every dollar you pay for it!

As you've likely guessed, there's two types of partitioning:
Destructive
Non-Destructive

Destuctive will kill all current data you have. Last I heard, Ranish Partition Manager was Destructive. FDisk is Destructive.

Partition Magic is Not destructive.

Its not really as bad as it sounds (Destructive Partitioning), it just means you must format afterwards!

You can however partition a bit of your HDD, say the first 30 gigs when installing windows (Clean install only, not upgrading), and then use a destructive or non-destructive partition manager to Add and fill up the rest of your HDD later.

You cannot with a Destructive partition manager change it all at a later date, hence why PM is so great!

FAT32 and NTFS are simply ways that your data is saved on your HDD.
(Sorry if you already know some of this.. I figure why not cover all bases seeing as so far there doesnt seem to be much covering everything..)
When it comes down to it, you can sum up the pro's and cons of each like this:
FAT32 is more reliable than NTFS (NTFS sometimes simply dies)
NTFS has extra features, such as advanced permissions, disk quota's
FAT32 is readable by DOS
FAT32 can always be converted later to NTFS, should you need to, relatively easily. Its much harder to get from NTFS back to FAT32 though, and I've never managed to do it without Partition Magic.
FAT32 cannot hold a single file that is larger than 6 gigs.

Im hoping this helps a little.. I'm just trying to sum up a lot of viewpoints that've been thrown your way, some of which havent said the reasoning behind them.

I'd suggest you use FAT32
Other's will suggest some good partitioning idea's :-)

Hope this helps

Cheers


Chill.
Chilling_Silently (228)
172728 2003-09-03 23:04:00 3 gig is far to small a size for XP for most people. don't forget about restore and that some programs require to be installed on c drive. i would suggest minimum 5gig but 10gig would be far safer.

ranish can do nondestructive partitioning PROVIDED there is no data in the aeras that are to become the other partitions. just defrag to make sure all data is packed to one end of the disk and then make sure it will all fit on your first partition.
tweak'e (174)
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