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| 173786 | 2003-09-09 09:59:00 | "are you an economist?" no - an electrician, and I see the same thing happening in our trade. People want a cheap job so everybody undercuts everyone else and nobody makes a decent living, so to make more money, throughput is increased and hence quality falls. You can't expect high quality and cheap - the two are just incompatible. BTW, why is it that every post lately seems to degenerate into a slanging match? Name-calling is no substitute for informed and intelligent debate! It really is becoming tiring - this used to be an enjoyable forum. |
andy (473) | ||
| 173787 | 2003-09-09 10:22:00 | >why is it that every post lately seems to degenerate into a slanging >match? Name-calling is no substitute for informed and intelligent >debate! It really is becoming tiring - this used to be an enjoyable forum. You can't expect everybody to be a gentlemen,like me.;) Lack of tolerence is the problem,they can't tolerate each other and you can't tolerate that they can't tolerate each other and so it goes on. Try to be like me,a gentleman and tolerant;) |
Thomas (1820) | ||
| 173788 | 2003-09-09 10:25:00 | I can understand him being hurt,its not everyday someone gets called an economist. .....................................HA |
metla (154) | ||
| 173789 | 2003-09-09 12:06:00 | Being pedantic and a purist, and a retired practioner of QA, the very basic concept of quality in its simplest definition is fitness for intended use. It isnt necessarily a question of high or low quality or cheapness or high price. A Mini fulfilled its intended use the same way as a Rolls Royce fulfills its intended use, and so in its way it was a quality product every bit as much as a Roller. However, since volumes and volumes have been written about Quality, QA, and QC, Value Engineering, and other techniques, this is not the forum to go on about it. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 173790 | 2003-09-09 19:20:00 | Andy has a point, some people need to tone it down a little. robo. |
robo (205) | ||
| 173791 | 2003-09-09 20:18:00 | >Andy has a point, some people need to tone it down a little. >robo Otherwise life could cease to exist as we know it;) |
Thomas (1820) | ||
| 173792 | 2003-09-09 21:34:00 | Was the glue used in PC World computers for stopping the cards from coming loose or as anti tamper? Were you Airforce Avionics Terry? We used to use some orange US made anti tamper stuff across screws and bolts. Not for anti tamper reasons but to see if something had come loose especially on helicopters. tedheath |
tedheath (537) | ||
| 173793 | 2003-09-09 23:32:00 | No Ted, not avionics, more on the mechanical side, but electronics has always been part of high tec-high precision development/manufacture. I started out as a lad with Joe Lucas Gas Turbine Equipment, fuel system manufacturer, also worked in QA at Flight Refuelling, and some QA at Safe Air. Cant get away from QA. Just 2 examples: The PC Company computer case is a classic example of an item demonstrably not fit for the purpose or intended use. If the floppy drive release button is half-heartedly pressed so that the disk does not pop out properly, then unless you have incredibly small fingers, long-nose pliars or tweezers are needed to extract the floppy disk. This is because the floppy drive is so deeply recessed. How a company could persist in supplying such rubbish I do not know. Another example relating to Andys work. Compare new electrical fixed wiring work required to be installed, firstly for a small, maybe a bit scruffy batch, secondly for a swish multi-million dollar home. In both cases the wiring must meet the relevant regulations, and thus meet a minimum quality standard fit for the purpose and safety requirements etc. The batch wiring may end up with exposed wiring, most probably covered with plastic covers, surface mounted switches and sockets, simple bayonet light sockets etc, but let's assume all regs are satified. The swish home will have concealed wiring, recessed lights and other light fittings and systems costing a fortune. The quality of both installations from a QA point of view is the same, because both satisfy all regs, meet customer requirements, fulfill the intended purpose, and are equally safe. The hot melt glue was intended to prevent components coming adrift. Whether there was any intention to prevent tampering, I'm not sure, though that it would work that way too. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 173794 | 2003-09-10 01:45:00 | I'm a student who really knows nothing about computers and had to learn a hell of a lot in a small space of time in order to purchase one for study. I handed money over last week to the pc company for a computer, that is supposed to be delivered within ten days. Being ill informed about the I.T sector, I logged on here to try and see what people's opinions are about the company's financial situation. What do people think...will the PC Company reopen? Will I ever get my pc? Even if I do finally get the pc, from what people are saying, it sounds as though I've gone with an unreliable company. This is all rather stressful, so any advice would be much appreciated. |
Hannah (4531) | ||
| 173795 | 2003-09-10 02:15:00 | > What do people think . . . will the PC Company reopen? > Will I ever get my pc? Even if I do finally get the > pc, from what people are saying, it sounds as though > I've gone with an unreliable company . > > This is all rather stressful, so any advice would be > much appreciated . I'd say that if the PC Co goes under, you MAYBE able to sue the directors of the PC Co personally . The argument would be that they traded while insolvent, and as such took your money knowing they would go out of business . No Ltd liability company structure will save a director from being negligent . Unfortunately, you will be waiting a while, I would say before you heard anything . . . Lo . |
Lohsing (219) | ||
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