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| Thread ID: 128672 | 2013-01-07 21:12:00 | Name supression for Nelson rapist lifted......... | Zippity (58) | PC World Chat |
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| 1321853 | 2013-01-09 23:00:00 | And you don't?? I think I am just being realistic in regards those that commit rape and think that But if there were only Europeans here, there would be very few of these cases to worry about. is just pathetic biased stereotyping. Sadly when it comes to ordinary violence I would agree with you. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 1321854 | 2013-01-09 23:19:00 | In 2010 NZ had 1129 rape cases as against Aussie with 1828 or put another way that is 25.8 per 100,000 as against 8.1. I am still looking but I would think the difference between Maori and other New Zealanders as perpetrators would be negligible. Keep us posted and let us know when you can see the forest for the trees with those glasses of yours :) |
Zippity (58) | ||
| 1321855 | 2013-01-09 23:34:00 | I am still looking but I would think the difference between Maori and other New Zealanders as perpetrators would be negligible. Considering what a race that makes up 15% of the countries population constitutes over 50% of the prison population, they're certainly doing *something* illegal... Edit: Links to back up my statements: www.corrections.govt.nz en.wikipedia.org |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1321856 | 2013-01-09 23:38:00 | Keep us posted and let us know when you can see the forest for the trees with those glasses of yours :) If you were bright you would try and find some statistics to back up your bias in the case of rape but you just keep on making meaningless posts. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 1321857 | 2013-01-09 23:46:00 | Keep us posted and let us know when you can see the forest for the trees with those glasses of yours :) From the 2007 report on disproportionality: "Key conclusions with respect to over-representation of Maori [and Pacifica] in the Criminal Justice system: • Disproportionality shows up strongly in Police apprehension figures, and a number of studies indicate that ethnicity in and of itself could have an influence in this area; • Similar levels of disproportionality are recorded in prosecutions, convictions, sentencing and reconviction figures, but most of the disproportionality relates to known risk factors rather than ethnicity". (my emphasis) One comment that tells us nothing we don't already know is, "there is evidence of a degree of over-representation that relates to ethnicity" I'm not wearing any rose tinted glasses. These are facts we can't ignore. What I object to are the racist tones in this and other previous threads on this forum. |
WalOne (4202) | ||
| 1321858 | 2013-01-10 00:07:00 | Considering what a race that makes up 15% of the countries population constitutes over 50% of the prison population, they're certainly doing *something* illegal... Not denying that but it still means 50% of the prison population isn't Maori and also going by that it is 50/50 as to what race commits a crime so guessing which race committed it is only going to be right 50% of the time. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 1321859 | 2013-01-10 00:15:00 | Friend works for Corrections... hire % of offenders are of Pasific Island decent... just sayin... | lordnoddy (3645) | ||
| 1321860 | 2013-01-10 00:29:00 | From the 2007 report on disproportionality: "Key conclusions with respect to over-representation of Maori [and Pacifica] in the Criminal Justice system: • Disproportionality shows up strongly in Police apprehension figures, and a number of studies indicate that ethnicity in and of itself could have an influence in this area; • Similar levels of disproportionality are recorded in prosecutions, convictions, sentencing and reconviction figures, but most of the disproportionality relates to known risk factors rather than ethnicity". (my emphasis) One comment that tells us nothing we don't already know is, "there is evidence of a degree of over-representation that relates to ethnicity" I'm not wearing any rose tinted glasses. These are facts we can't ignore. What I object to are the racist tones in this and other previous threads on this forum. Thanks WalOne for indicating that the police expectation of criminality is a major factor in who gets apprehended in that quote you posted, and that it's not about ethnicity when it comes to prosecution and sentencing. :-) I agree, racist tones are unwelcome in this thread and on the forum in general. I encourage people to report posts they feel cross the line - any talk that heads into stereotypes or presents things as "them" vs "us" is not acceptable. |
Zara Baxter (16260) | ||
| 1321861 | 2013-01-10 00:39:00 | Not denying that but it still means 50% of the prison population isn't Maori and also going by that it is 50/50 as to what race commits a crime so guessing which race committed it is only going to be right 50% of the time. Well kinda. There's more than just two ethnicities in this country, we're most definitely a very multi-cultural society and not just bi-cultural. You have a better chance of getting it right if you guess Maori, as Pacifika, Asian, NZ Europeans make up the remainder. Just saying, that for an ethnicity that is only 15% of the population, being over 50% in prison isn't a good look. Either that or the white guys are just better at not getting caught ;) |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1321862 | 2013-01-10 00:43:00 | If there are no pure blood Maori, and not all Maori are in prison, it could be said that the most represented ethnicity in prisons are those with European blood. Just saying. | sam m (517) | ||
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