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| Thread ID: 128688 | 2013-01-09 02:00:00 | Reincarnation | Roscoe (6288) | PC World Chat |
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| 1322081 | 2013-01-09 08:09:00 | Someone that had that much written about them must of lived and been pretty important. Oh? What much? You know there's loads of documents about various of the bible bits, some that were left out too. But the only accounts of this guy at all, were all written ages after the fact and there were only 4. Anywhere. No Roman accounts, nothing. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 1322082 | 2013-01-09 08:25:00 | If you want to get a clear picture of exactly why the 'Son of God' myth is just that, mythology, read "Jesus, the cold case" by Bryan Bruce. Bruce has produced a meticulously researched historical analysis that reviews the entire 'Jesus' story (and associated biblical events) in extraordinary detail; and in doing so he reveals major inconsistencies (to put it politely) that cast strong doubts on the veracity of some biblical stories and literally demolishes many others. I am not a believer in reincarnation, invisible men, vengeful Gods, or just the general plethora of gods (www.lowchensaustralia.com) who purport to control Man's destinies, but I am willing to read any credibly researched and written thesis or anthology that cast light upon the origins and workings of various beliefs. Bryan Bruce has carried out an erudite and dispassionate investigation of the available literature including the scriptures, and his analysis and conclusions are incisive. The holders of all beliefs based on the story of Jesus will find something there for them, but he does not give much credence to totally faith-based concepts such as virgin births, or to much of the hubris that surrounds the tales of the apostles. His approach is moderate, thoughtful, and matter of fact, which will make it a real challenge for faith-based readers, and it is the sort of work that will raise the hackles of the blind-faith believers. Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 1322083 | 2013-01-09 19:30:00 | Well i guess we are all going to find out sooner or later who was right. That i can guarantee you. | Gobe1 (6290) | ||
| 1322084 | 2013-01-09 19:54:00 | Just for your info...I did help to build Stonehenge. I met Merlin as well. PJ Yep, I remember.... I was the one that forced the planning permission thru! Ahhh... The days before things like the Resource Management Act! ;) |
tuiruru (12277) | ||
| 1322085 | 2013-01-09 20:27:00 | It's an endless pointless circular argument, I indulge in it myself sometimes but don't expect to get anywhere. For the most part people believe what they believe completely and it clouds their interpretation of everything they experience, simple human nature. Ever noticed that people who are taught to believe in God as children tend to always at least partially believe and those that aren't seldom become religious as adults? I'm a firm believer that religion should not be taught prior to age 20, where people can then make their own decisions rather than being indoctrinated. It'll never happen of course, religion has too much to lose and people are well aware how gullible children are. There is no proof God exists and there is no way to prove he does not, in the end you have to chose whether to believe or not because you're never going to get the evidence. Same goes for reincarnation etc. My 2c though. I believe in theories based on evidence and research, I accept that they are ever changing as we learn more and as such are not 100% but still the best we have. I find it laughable when Religion turns to science in an attempt to either prove their point of view or disprove an opposing one, if you truly have faith why do you feel the need to prove anything? If science is such a danger to your beliefs maybe you should consider why that is, it's not made up or fabricated to attack religion and in fact most scientific theories that contradict religion were arrived at without any intention of attacking peoples beliefs. I think the biggest problem is that everyone wants to understand but noone is actually capable of it. Accepting that is difficult. |
dugimodo (138) | ||
| 1322086 | 2013-01-09 20:57:00 | Reincarnation? I do not know. Anything is possible in life and death. Recently, I had a friend mock people who say they have had near death experiences. Then I told him that I had had one. As a result of an accident, where I slipped in a shallow swimming pool in the summer of '78, I ended up for some months in hospital with 3 cervical verterbrae that were compression fractured and dislocated. After the fall and the consequent damage happened, I was floating underwater completely paralysed, but with this brilliant white light sensation an a feeling of complete peace with myself. I was rescued by my son and after many months of teaching my body to work again, I recovered enough to be a contributor to society again. Since that event I have never questioned anything to do with such matters again. I have never feared death since that day. (Just don't want to be there when it happens.) :thumbs: Ken |
kenj (9738) | ||
| 1322087 | 2013-01-09 21:12:00 | I don't believe in gods, any of them. I believe Jesus existed, too many accounts of that to deny. I like most of his teachings, they would, if EVERYONE applied them, make the world a better place. (Although he was not the first, or last to say these things) Human nature dictates otherwise though. Too much self interest and ignorance. Re-incarnation? I doubt it. +1 |
ChazTheGeek (16619) | ||
| 1322088 | 2013-01-09 21:27:00 | One of the problems with the theory of reincarnation is that neither do the maths add up, nor do we see the results of achieving perfection. A basic tenet of reincarnation is that souls are reborn over and over again learning more and more each time until a state of perfection is reached and the soul then resides in a state of perpetual nirvana. The worlds humanoid population around 1 million years ago probably was in the order of thousands or hundreds of thousands. Now it is getting on for 7 billion, thus the recycling rate of souls must have increased umpteen thousand fold together with a soul manufacturing factory somewhere having to work overtime to keep up with the demand with new births :) After all this time one would have thought we would be seeing the results of all this rebirth with millions of saintly people walking around in near perfect states of nirvana, performing miracles, walking on water etc. doing all the sorts of things Jesus is reputed to have done. Instead society is steadily getting worse with torture and killings on a scale hardly dreamed of 2000 years ago. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 1322089 | 2013-01-09 23:01:00 | I saw on TV the other night that in the life of what we know as man, 45 billion of us have lived on earth. Ken |
kenj (9738) | ||
| 1322090 | 2013-01-10 04:59:00 | I saw on TV the other night that in the life of what we know as man, 45 billion of us have lived on earth. Ken OMG, that is an awful lot of souls to have made if there is no reincarnation. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
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